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[Ygdrad]

I'll most likely end up buying it since Monster Hunter will probably have a switch exclusive sooner or later. Skyrim running on it is fairly promising, too bad Skyrim is terribland without mods.

[Nighthawk]

Yeah, I haven't been a Nintendo devotee since I was 15. And the endless death march of devices Nintendo puts out pretty ensures I never will be. I like Nintendo games but not enough to keep up with all the expensive backend purchases.

Say what you want about Nintendo's systems being hit-or-miss, they seem to be a lot more in touch with what makes games fun than most other developers.

[Aklyon]

Yeah, I haven't been a Nintendo devotee since I was 15. And the endless death march of devices Nintendo puts out pretty ensures I never will be. I like Nintendo games but not enough to keep up with all the expensive backend purchases.

Say what you want about Nintendo's systems being hit-or-miss, they seem to be a lot more in touch with what makes games fun than most other developers.

They are not exactly good at online stuff (3ds system transfer, while effective and had amusing pikmin, was sloooow and could've been replaced with actually using the nintendo account as an account, not just a replacement network id), but its still a game console that knows its for games, not trying to imitate a home theater and assuming people want to use their game thing for watching movies too and don't already have a device or several that do the same thing and were cheaper.

[Flying Carcass]

inb4 folks misplace various detachable parts.

Also inb4 the "Nintendo named the Switch well, because I switched it for a Xbox/Playstation" jokes.


I'm sure the device will be alright -IF- the third parties actually develop games for it. Also, I'm sure all five of the folks who haven't played Skyrim on other devices are really excited for the Switch release. 

[Ozyton]

Speaking of lost controllers, I saw someone speculate that the joy-cons would have little speakers in them, and you could push a 'find' button and it would make a noise so you could find it. How else would you account for people screwing up like that? Lanyards?

I'm also wondering how the joy-cons snap into the main unit. They slide in from the top, so I can foresee people accidentally 'unlocking' the console and having the thing slide right out and smash on the ground. Unlikely? Yes, but humans are capable of some surprising things.

[Neonivek]

Like a lot of systems Nintendo makes...

It is all about the games... This is probably one of the better ideas for handhelds (though I suspect the Battery Life will be abysmal)...

But Nintendo always drops the ball when it comes to games.

I got the Wii U thinking I'd be having tons of fun with the library of games only to find I only had one game I even cared about... with their more arcade short games being WAAAY too expensive.

Worst yet is they are showing what was the WORST aspect of the PSP/VITA era which was... Ports... (which killed the Vita for me)

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I shall not believe.

My main issue is with the idea that it can actually do what it claims to do, remote transmission of games using the console's hardware. Efforts have been made before, and they've essentially all failed. If they prove it, I'll believe.

I skipped out on the current console generation, including the WiiU, to ascend to the PC Master Race. I have yet to see a reason beyond the devil's bargain of exclusives to return. I barely played my Wii (ehheheheheh), and while I never got a PS3 (599 US Dollars) I bet I would have played that way more had I gotten one.

On the other hand, if there is a way for consoles to survive Nintendo may have just found it. Xbone and PS4 are having issues because they both want to emulate the advantages of PC without actually providing the advantages of PC. The legal and professional issues abound, like with the modding support for Fallout 4. WiiU did alright with its usual Average Housewife Trying To Distract Children market, I guess.

I'm no fan of the .5 console plans that all three big dogs have apparently decided to employ, but of them Nintendo's is almost certainly going to be the only one with a chance. My reasoning for this is that Microsoft and Sony will continue to massively struggle with PC or to not PC, while Nintendo is doing the whole radical design shift thing again in a way that emphasizes the big benefit of consoles: specialization and convenience.

So in other words, a capital-M Maybe until I see more. It's probably more rope than I'll give the Sony or Microsoft projects unless they really pull out all the stops.

[Ozyton]

My main issue is with the idea that it can actually do what it claims to do, remote transmission of games using the console's hardware. Efforts have been made before, and they've essentially all failed. If they prove it, I'll believe.

Can you elaborate on this please? Remote transmissions? Are you referring to the wireless controllers and latency?

On the other hand, if there is a way for consoles to survive Nintendo may have just found it. Xbone and PS4 are having issues because they both want to emulate the advantages of PC without actually providing the advantages of PC. The legal and professional issues abound, like with the modding support for Fallout 4. WiiU did alright with its usual Average Housewife Trying To Distract Children market, I guess.

Someone said something interesting regarding this and I think it's pretty accurate. "Nintendo is trying to make a better console. Sony and Microsoft are trying to make a worse PC." Considering how you can no longer take a modern console, slap a game in, and play immediately anymore (in most cases) makes me wonder why people buy them for anything other than exclusives and maybe to avoid having to shop for or build a PC.

I'm no fan of the .5 console plans that all three big dogs have apparently decided to employ, but of them Nintendo's is almost certainly going to be the only one with a chance. My reasoning for this is that Microsoft and Sony will continue to massively struggle with PC or to not PC, while Nintendo is doing the whole radical design shift thing again in a way that emphasizes the big benefit of consoles: specialization and convenience.

I always felt that the XboX360/PS3 era of consoles went on for way too long. The PS4 and XB1 came at a very awkward time, both too early and at the same time too late. They should have either come out earlier and been decent systems for their time or been delayed and improved upon. Now both systems have to be upgraded to 'catch up'.

I'll say again, the main feature of mobility doesn't interest me for this console but Nintendo is doing the right thing in making both home console and mobile console options viable. That way people like me are happy, and I imagine the people who like playing while they're commuting or travelling or whatever will like it too. I wonder if parents would want to get it though when they can just give their kids phones. Unless the kids are exposed to it and want the games or think the system is cool etc.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

My main issue is with the idea that it can actually do what it claims to do, remote transmission of games using the console's hardware. Efforts have been made before, and they've essentially all failed. If they prove it, I'll believe.

Can you elaborate on this please? Remote transmissions? Are you referring to the wireless controllers and latency?

Yes. Again, my issue is hampered by lack of technical information. I'm sure we'll get details soon, but right now what the trailer seems to be trying to say is: "Play Skyrim with your console's hardware anywhere you have wifi!". That'd be one impressive technical achievement, and I need hard proof before I'll accept it.

Someone said something interesting regarding this and I think it's pretty accurate. "Nintendo is trying to make a better console. Sony and Microsoft are trying to make a worse PC." Considering how you can no longer take a modern console, slap a game in, and play immediately anymore (in most cases) makes me wonder why people buy them for anything other than exclusives and maybe to avoid having to shop for or build a PC.

I mean, that is why. It's not nothing, but there was a severe drop off of console utility after the last generation. I know I definitely needed consoles when I was younger, dealing with what difficulties PC does cause would have been really hard as a minor without my brain fully grown in. God knows my parents weren't computer-savvy enough. I'm sure for people who are young now, consoles are still helpful in that way.

None of that is meant in a pejorative way either, there's nothing wrong with being a young gamer or not wanting to deal with PC-type problems, but all of that is always going to be easier for established adults and consoles are built to not have that concern. Hence why the RROD was such a major controversy, when that kind of thing would only be Fucking Typical for a PC component.

I'll say again, the main feature of mobility doesn't interest me for this console but Nintendo is doing the right thing in making both home console and mobile console options viable. That way people like me are happy, and I imagine the people who like playing while they're commuting or travelling or whatever will like it too. I wonder if parents would want to get it though when they can just give their kids phones. Unless the kids are exposed to it and want the games or think the system is cool etc.

Just wait until autonomous cars start taking off. Everybody's gonna be clawing for transit entertainment then. Right now, not only does the driver have to drive but it goes unspoken that the passengers shouldn't just ignore the driver and leave them to it. That dynamic completely changes with no driver.

[Wiles]

My main issue is with the idea that it can actually do what it claims to do, remote transmission of games using the console's hardware. Efforts have been made before, and they've essentially all failed. If they prove it, I'll believe.

Can you elaborate on this please? Remote transmissions? Are you referring to the wireless controllers and latency?

Yes. Again, my issue is hampered by lack of technical information. I'm sure we'll get details soon, but right now what the trailer seems to be trying to say is: "Play Skyrim with your console's hardware anywhere you have wifi!". That'd be one impressive technical achievement, and I need hard proof before I'll accept it.

The impression I got was that you were playing Skyrim on your mobile hardware, not having it streamed to you via wifi.

[Ozyton]

Yes. Again, my issue is hampered by lack of technical information. I'm sure we'll get details soon, but right now what the trailer seems to be trying to say is: "Play Skyrim with your console's hardware anywhere you have wifi!". That'd be one impressive technical achievement, and I need hard proof before I'll accept it.

The 'dock' for the system has no processing power, all of the power comes from the tablet with the screen. The dock just provided a convenient HDMI port from the console tablet to the TV. I know this wasn't exactly explained in the video but Nintendo said so afterwards.
The games are played off cartridges put inside the tablet console, similar to Nintendo's handheld systems.

Just wait until autonomous cars start taking off. Everybody's gonna be clawing for transit entertainment then. Right now, not only does the driver have to drive but it goes unspoken that the passengers shouldn't just ignore the driver and leave them to it. That dynamic completely changes with no driver.

That's a good point, but how far away is autonomous driving? Serious question, I actually haven't looked into it. Will the NSwitch still be relevant by then? I know I personally don't enjoy driving, I just do it as a necessity.

That makes me wonder, how many people are going to be dumb enough to try using this thing while they're driving? Have there been problems like that with other handhelds or is it just something pretty much exclusive to cellphones?

[Neonivek]

Cellphones give the illusion that you COULD use it while driving. Afterall you need only one hand to drive.

Before Cellphones people would sometimes shave while driving.

So... Not many honestly. It is a two handed system.

[Wiles]

The 'dock' for the system has no processing power, all of the power comes from the tablet with the screen. The dock just provided a convenient HDMI port from the console tablet to the TV. I know this wasn't exactly explained in the video but Nintendo said so afterwards.

Ah that's too bad, I was hoping it might have its own more powerful GPU that it would use when your device was docked. I guess it would make things simpler and cheaper to use one GPU though.

[Ozyton]

I've used my cellphone as a GPS while driving a couple times, holding it on top of the steering wheel. It's not ideal and I'd rather not do it but I can see how someone could try playing like that, and I'm not even driving automatic.

Ah that's too bad, I was hoping it might have its own more powerful GPU that it would use when your device was docked. I guess it would make things simpler and cheaper to use one GPU though.

I was hoping the dock would provide some power too, but unfortunately that's not the case. They probably wouldn't be able to afford to sell the system at a decent price if that were the case. As long as the games are in 1080p on the big screen I'm happy, ideally at 60FPS. Oh, and battery, but we've already talked about that.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The 'dock' for the system has no processing power, all of the power comes from the tablet with the screen. The dock just provided a convenient HDMI port from the console tablet to the TV. I know this wasn't exactly explained in the video but Nintendo said so afterwards.
The games are played off cartridges put inside the tablet console, similar to Nintendo's handheld systems.

Oh. Well that's outright fucking impossible and gonna have terrible performance just like the Wii and the WiiU.

That's a good point, but how far away is autonomous driving? Serious question, I actually haven't looked into it. Will the NSwitch still be relevant by then? I know I personally don't enjoy driving, I just do it as a necessity.

Maybe? Autonomous driving exists and isn't even all that expensive (in relative terms). It's a specialist product right now, or at least it's going to be in the immediate future as long as the legal hangups get dealt with. If there's a push or if takeoff occurs on its own then it's gonna explode in popularity, and that could happen more or less whenever. It'll almost certainly be a few years yet, but the world is ruled by memes now so it could theoretically start tomorrow. So yeah, entirely possible it'll happen during the Switch's lifetime.

That makes me wonder, how many people are going to be dumb enough to try using this thing while they're driving? Have there been problems like that with other handhelds or is it just something pretty much exclusive to cellphones?

Not really. The problem with phones is that they're just low-cognition enough that people can justify the idea of using them while driving, especially if they're only talking. I don't think even your average idiot is going to look at a 3DS sitting next to the transmission and think "I can swing this".

I'm sure somebody's done it, but there have been people who tried to drive while masturbating, so, you know.

This is only more proof why we need more attention for the greatest console of all time, the N-GAGE!