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[LARD]

In for Replacement. This looks like fun!

[hector13]

LARD has replaced snowdwarf!

[LARD]

Okay, I've read through the thread but not having the timescale messes with me.  Here's a couple reads.
Origamiscienceguy: Not scum.  He's being dumb and nolynching, but still is confused enough that he doesn't appear scummy. 
Kilojoule Proton:   His interactions with the thebiggerfish were tentative and sketchy. He was active but not pursuing anybody specific, bouncing his vote around. This is suspicious and indicative of new scum. (I think)

As for the rest of this, I don't believe that you let this guy get away with a nolynch. This is silly.  Origamiscienceguy, stop it.  Even if you think you have a good reason, the rest of us don't share it.  Nolynching is simply not a good idea at this point.  We lynch one today and then if we miss, we might talk about nolynching at mylo. But nolynching last round just lost us a significant advantage.

So as for questions, Kilojoule Proton, why did your suspicions bounce around so much? Why have you not found a main target?  Who do you think is mafia?

Cheers everyone, thanks for letting me in!

[Imic]

Could I join or is it too late? I am new to mafia. Ish. I played a version of it two years ago.

[Tiruin]

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This isn't probably convenient to mention that my exams started Wednesday and is until Saturday- wait I just did >_>
<_<
People should extend more.

Backing up to stuff I wanted to mention literal days ago:

Spoiler: @vishdafish, but applicable to all others (click to show/hide)

Your posts much recently have been merely voting other people, seemingly at random. Can I ask why?

Next, that is one priority to improve on as you won't be surviving or being efficient in a game if all your actions would be just voting. I'm really glad you find it an enjoyable game because motivation helps a lot in learning :3 ...I'm also sorry that I haven't been active as of late in doing much in tutorial-ing anyone here :I

That said, I'll assume you're town. You did mention you have an interest in intrigue--so, you can further this in your posts. A possible improvement that rather than having the entirety of the post as a vote (as is what seems to happen at times in mafia forums), is also adding a bit of your reasoning and thinking into it. Aim for conciseness rather than brevity. If you lack the time--it is best to mention that you lack time and are dropping this in, as in games on B12, you'll be questioned for discussion regarding your actions. This is because of contextual knowledge.
Nobody but you knows your alignment--and even if you're scum (or for advanced games, a third-party), the day-phase is a time for information and impression. You don't necessarily have to make it a point to DIRECTLY PROVE you're town, because this is an underlying implication: People attempt to both gather information in the day-phase, along with presenting themselves via HOW they do that. This is a very good reason why there are Mafia games wherein NO power role (ie roles with abilities) exist, so that the people rely on the most basic and foundational tool they have: Communication.

Why we ask details here can also be said that it's connected to the playerbase--generally older than the usual folks, so we seek ways that will also develop our attitude in the bigger picture, as players and as people. So hence why I'm leaning and advocating stepping up your game

WHICH I'LL CONTINUE IN THE MORNING AS THIS POST IS JUST IC-SPEAK and less me-as-a-player-speak
Everything below is player-me. If I address anyone in spoilers, it's IC speak.
Ohey LARD, long time no see!

Kilojoule Proton:   His interactions with the thebiggerfish were tentative and sketchy. He was active but not pursuing anybody specific, bouncing his vote around. This is suspicious and indicative of new scum. (I think)

While you do have a point that it can be an indicator, what else points him out as a possible vote target?
This is player-me speaking.

Could I join or is it too late? I am new to mafia. Ish. I played a version of it two years ago.

You can ask if you can act as a replacement (which means you replace anyone that isn't able to play due to reasons), OR ask for a tentative sign-up and notification by any future BM mod!). You posting here makes this thread available in your '
Show new replies to your posts.' though, so you're pretty much watching what's going on. :3

[Imic]

I'm in! Hello all!

[hector13]

Before the mod announces it! Totes mod-kill behaviour etc. etc.

I mean, Imic has replaced roo!

[Imic]

Before the mod announces it! Totes mod-kill behaviour etc. etc.

I mean, Imic has replaced roo!

A lone wanderer walks through the blizzard.
He arrives at the inn, and starts to talk to everyone.
Your friend Roo apparantly ran out into the blizzard to get away from all this. I know this 'cause I met him, wandering just a while away from here. He stopped me and gave a few things and asked me to try and help. Someone asked him, 'what did he give you?' The key to his room, replied Imic, as well as some money, and... A cookie. Ddly enough. Ah well, so. What's happening? And, if yer thinkin of leavin like Roo, the blozzard just got worse. I barely made it. Oops.

[vishdafish]

Will post in ~16 hours. Sorry, im pretty busy lately. My chicks just hatched and I have to take care of them. 

[LARD]

Hi Tiruin, I've been lurking, but forum mafia hurts my soul a bit so I've taken a break.  As to your question, the KJP was also FoSed by a mafia who then just left him alone.  This seems suspicious especially when he was voting erratically.  He's the best lead I have so far and I'm waiting to see how he answers. 

oh EXTEND from me too.  We need to hear from people. 

Imic: what do you think of vishdafish and OSG?

Why? Do you really think that I am the last scum? I would have put myself on an astronomically high chance of getting power roll'd last night.

OSG: You could very well be the other scum. I don't think you are but this sentence alone makes me nervous.  You act as though others should find it inconceivable that you are scum.  This is obviously ludicrous and has got me lynched before.  Start hunting people and stop pushing for a nolynch. Sorry for the double post message to you.

[Tiruin]

Extend

PFP

[hector13]

Day 3 has been extended to 2pm Central US Time on Wednesday, or ~159 hours, 30 minutes.

There is 1 extension remaining for Day 3.

I'll have a proper vote count up later, perhaps tomorrow, but it's a no lynch as things stand.

[vishdafish]

@Tiruin

Well, really, I havent been throwing votes out at random. I have only voted 2 people so far: TBF and kilakan/OSG. As for todays vote, it was based on my reasoning from earlier. I dont think I have articulated myself well, so I will summarize my reasoning in this post.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. OSGs no lynch plan does not benefit town. No matter how you look at it, it cant work. Even if we did have 2 power roles, and one of them found the real scum, there would be the messy issue of fake claiming and confusion. It also helps the scum identify the power roles. Its simple math. 2<2+1.

2. Trying to make roo sound scummy at the start. If you look back a few pages, you will notice that kilakan (along with TBF) was trying to make roo look like scum. A relatively minor issue, considering roo was acting slightly suspicious, but it adds to my suspicion.

3. Question dodging. Look at the quote.

Whoops, unvote for the time being. Still want to hear OSG's thooughts, though.

Well, technically, this is not a question, but it is clear that KJP was expecting a response and didnt recieve it.

4. I was not NKed. I was continuosly pushing for OSG lynch. If the scum wasnt OSG, and had half
a brain, they would have killed me. Why? Because it creates a load of suspicion on OSG, and would mean, if he was town, he would have been lynched.

I also think a question remains unanswered. Why didnt the other scum save TBF on day one, when he had a clear opportunity to do so? I also believe that as town, we must be more decisive. Please no bouncing votes like KJP. Ideally, we should have a lynch every day. It gives us more info as to who the scum is, as we can infer from the alignment of the person who was lynched, and who pushed for it, even if it isnt successful.

[Kilojoule Proton]

Tentative OSG: Reposting: Would you lynch a scumbuddy if you had only one? If not, what would make you lynch a scumbuddy?

LARD: I'm really not sure how to investigate effectively yet. I'd like to be really sure I get scum, but they never say they're scum. As for condensed updated reads:
vishdafish: Consistently active in scumhunting, probably town, possibly role?
snow dwarf->LARD: Previously had barely any interactions, maybe got poked. Probably town? How does scumchat even work anyway?
origamiscienceguy: I think juicebox had a bit of a disagreement with OSG D2, but then again, vishdafish had more active complaints. Suspicious. Also advocated nolynch, which I find suspicious despite the reasoning (something about our intact power roles and there only being one scum). Also failed to answer a question D2, but this is still somewhat excusable.
roo->Imic: Currently reminds me of my first few posts on this one. Probably town
Tiruin: Still a bit difficult to separate IC-helpfulness from player-and-potential-scum. Maybe town? Would hate to mislynch and possibly drive a guide inactive.

Tiruin and vishdafish: I'll try to reduce the bouncy voting. It's probably annoying to have to process too.

[hector13]

Day 3

You decide to go to bed a little later this evening before doing much in the way of investigating. One of you - obviously a dirty pacifist - still wants to keep everyone alive for the night, while the rest of you see it fit to throw accusations back and forth.

Votes

vishdafish -
Kilojoule Proton - LARD (1)
snow dwarf -
origamisciencyguy - vishdafish, Kilojoule Proton (2)
roo -
Tiruin -

No Lynch - origamiscienceguy (1)

Extensions (1 remaining) - 0/2 -

Shortens - 0/3 -

Day 3 will end at 2pm on Wednesday, or 144 hours, 30 minutes.


Edit: origamiscienceguy and juicebox have been prodded.