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[Rolan7]

Yeah but really what could be done about the Trump presidency?

Like even if the protests worked and American decided "Hey, maybe Trump isn't the best president and Clinton should be in charge" what could they even do?

Which is why I consider these protests to be letting off steam.

I think it's important that this be met with protests.  If we all lay down and let it happen, that would send a bad message.
Yeah, Trump will be the president.  Everyone knows that.  If anything, that makes the protests more meaningful.

[martinuzz]

The problem with large, peaceful protests is that it's easy to wait them out.

Occupy showed us that. They were largely peaceful, simply setting up camp somewhere visible and waiting around with signs. Eventually they gave up and left, some quicker than others, some more stubbornly than others. But eventually they all left.

They grabbed plenty of attention, but it was just that, attention, little or nothing changed as a result.

Occupy failed because many reasons. Not holding ground is one, yeah. More important one is that there was no common goal, and no clear demands. It was a congregation of splinter groups that failed to make a common statement.
Also, many Occupy demonstrations in West EU devolved into 'sing kumbaya, smoke weed and drink beer' groups that would just party, and occasionally say 'fuck the system' to any reporter that hadn't grown bored of the encampment yet, while the original organisation of the Occupy camps usually had given up trying interest the participants in politics or making any statement beyond fuck the system, and gone home days ago.
Occupy started out as a good idea, but was carried out miserably unprofessional.

[TheBiggerFish]

Actually...I wonder how susceptible Trump is to being deluged with letters of protest at his policy points?

[MasterFancyPants]

You guys still pushing the racist, sexist thing?

Trump got 1/3 of the minority vote and 1/2 of the female vote. He also got the majority of the white vote who previously voted for Obama.

[Frumple]

Aye, he did. Not because of much he did, but he did. Lotta' folks didn't think his behavior mattered, for whatever reason.

Actually...I wonder how susceptible Trump is to being deluged with letters of protest at his policy points?

If previous behavior is anything to go by it would motivate him to do the exact opposite out of spite.

Maybe try reverse psychology, I'unno.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalěs]

Anarchists and instigators will often, if not always try to use protests as an excuse to go about and cause damage. Don't blame that on the protest itself though, blame that on exactly those who are demolishing property or hurting innocent bystanders. Protesting in itself is a basic right.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but aren't all the protests before the dude has even done anything kinda like crying wolf?  Get riled up when injustice actually starts happening instead of just when people are scared it will.

Too many big protests now and y'all might not be taken seriously when ya need to be.

Disagree. Prevention is better than damage control. Protesting against Trump as a warning to not become a full out racist bigot president, to put it bluntly, is much preferable over first letting him hurt people and protesting afterwards

Hey dude anarchism isn't the EVILZ.

[Rolan7]

But when it boils down to it, by all appearances he's a thin-skinned egotistical con man with all that entails, but that ain't really worth hate in and of itself, per se. Lots of other things, but not really hate. Now, pence? The GOP (if not really its voters) that's been hard screwing my country all my life? Maaaaybe a bit of hate. Titch. Lil bit. Work with them if it'd help but if all of them spontaneously burst into flames tomorrow I'd be dancing a little jig, for all that is a horrible, horrible sentiment.

You might be right about Trump.  It's hard to tell when he lies so much.
Pence?  I hate Pence.  I hate him in retaliation for him hating me, and people like me.  I hate him less, because I believe in deescalation, but I still hate him a lot.
I'm terrified that he might become president.  I would not be surprised if Trump got impeached with Republican support.

You guys still pushing the racist, sexist thing?

Trump got 1/3 of the minority vote and 1/2 of the female vote. He also got the majority of the white vote who previously voted for Obama.

As if that means a thing.  Republicans vote Republican.  Scared people vote whatever.  People who believes lies will vote against Clinton.
People do not have perfect information.  Internalized oppression is very real.

I still don't think he was that racist, but that is the shittiest argument against it.

[hector13]

You guys still pushing the racist, sexist thing?

Trump got 1/3 of the minority vote and 1/2 of the female vote. He also got the majority of the white vote who previously voted for Obama.

Because minorities voting for a racist ceases to make them racist? Women voting for a sexist ceases to make them sexist?

[Lagslayer]

t. smug liberal jackass

I've never seen anyone hide behind so many strawmen. Everything you say is a gross exaggeration of a gross exaggeration. Even the Hillary campaign was more honest than you.

Chill dude. Don't resort to name calling. Not cool.

His entire response was nothing BUT name calling!

Show me where in his his response he was name calling, because I sure as hell can't see any.

In this order. Please excuse the paraphrasing.
"You're a bigot!"
"You have no self restraint!"
"You have no self restraint!"
"I don't have to back up my wild claims!"
"Since I can't back up my wild claims, you are just as bad as you say I am!"
"You're a bigot that voted for a bigot!"
"Nuh-uh! You!"
"I'm shocked, SHOCKED that you would insinuate I'm not the saint I portray myself as! You're crazy!"
"YES! You are bad people that want to throw innocent people out on the streets, but when did I ever say that? You see, unlike you, I sit down, listen to, and discuss things rationally, and without name-calling. This is why when you say I'm Satan, you're actually talking about yourself."

[miauw62]

You guys still pushing the racist, sexist thing?

Trump got 1/3 of the minority vote and 1/2 of the female vote. He also got the majority of the white vote who previously voted for Obama.

how does that mean he's not a racist and a sexist?

[Neonivek]

You guys still pushing the racist, sexist thing?

Trump got 1/3 of the minority vote and 1/2 of the female vote. He also got the majority of the white vote who previously voted for Obama.

Because minorities voting for a racist ceases to make them racist? Women voting for a sexist ceases to make them sexist?

You are forgetting the third point

That being a minority means you aren't discriminate against your own? (though don't dive too far into this... The whole "Well your opinion isn't your own, a white male taught you it" becomes toxically circular when talking about minorities)

So yeah, the fact that Trump got half of the women's vote means nothing on every level.

[martinuzz]

I am slightly surprised, that I've not seen the question brought up yet in the media, if maybe the election results have been tampered with.
I know that Trump suggested that, and that no one anti Trump likes to be accused of being a Trump, but have there been reports of independent observers on the election process? Was the voting software's source open to the public for revision? Which company made the voting software?

[TheBiggerFish]

A lot of them, and they're pretty easily hackable...

[Neonivek]

A lot of them, and they're pretty easily hackable...

You know... if you walk up to them, open them up with a key, then put in a disk drive that specifically alters the hardware.

[TheBiggerFish]

A lot of them, and they're pretty easily hackable...

You know... if you walk up to them, open them up with a key, then put in a disk drive that specifically alters the hardware.

And how many opportunities were there for that?