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Oh gee, I'm so sorry you don't like to hear clearly demonstrable fact. Unless you need to hear Donald Trump drop the n-bomb during the Inaugural Address, there's no question that he's either personally a bigot or intentionally courting bigots. It's been days since the election ended and I am sure is shit not letting anybody forget "they're sending rapists", "you have to go after their families", "grab her by the pussy" or any of the other shit he has spewed either publicly or privately.
Sure there is. He's a shock jock. You don't have to be a bad person to spew filth for attention or social signalling. It helps, but it's not required.
That sure sounds a lot like "courting bigots". That he's a bad person is, I think, far in the past at this point.
To the whole thing: Alright, gimme some numbers.
Sure, send me the mindreading laser satellite and I'll get right on that.
Because this really just sounds like the same tribal shield-thumping you see with every political zealot, talking about The Other whose crimes and influence have grown so great that they Can No Longer Be Ignored.
Why do I even bother? I spend all of my actual strategist time talking about how the left needs unity and understanding, and then I get this.
The middle paragraph especially disturbs me, because it really just feels like a blanket condemnation of anyone who disagrees with you. What, if you disagree with illegal immigration, would you feel is within the "paradigm of acceptable angles" to do about it? Or is the problem simply that anyone who gets to the disagreeing part is already hideously wrong to begin with?
If you think we should try to round Hispanic people up and throw them over the border, imprison women exercising their reproductive rights, or refuse to address police executions so we can be all tough on crime, then yes, you are a bad person. If we think that believing things can make you a bad person, that is. I suppose one could take the view that you can believe America should ethnically cleanse the streets in a hail of gunfire and beat gay children until they decide to be normal
without acting on it and so you're absolutely neutral because you don't do anything.
There is plenty of room to be reasonable about illegal immigration without agreeing with me. I'm not even absolutely certain what we should do about it. Donald Trump's expressed views are not within that range.
Also, the paradigm of angles is not about what should or should not be tolerated, it's about how politics has worked in the past vs. what Trump did. Some of the GOP advocated for deportation, but they did so from say, the idea that we have to have a fair immigration process and support our own laws. Compare to Trump's rather direct version of the underlying idea: Mexicans are rapists, BUILD WALL.
my understanding, was that the fact that the majority did not call him down on his extremism and racism, is what is nightmarish.
That is what framed my response. When you push for social change faster than a population can accomodate, they grow weary of that constant pushing. They grow numb to your cause. They even rebel against it, in spite, because you ignore their needs in the matter, in favor of your pushed agenda(s).
Not everyone in the country is gay. Not everyone in this country wants to pay for healthcare. Many people dont like being told "fuck you, we made it law, fucking obey!"
That is why people turned a blind eye to trump's failings, favoring his other messages. Many want relief from oppressively rapacious progressivism, and its policies. They may, and likely will, disagree on the specific things they find onerous, but they can all agree that they need a break from it.
Rather than pursue it at a rate that can be safely absorbed over time, because "Gotta keep up the momentum! Gay people suffers and stuff!! OMG!", the aggressive posturing has created a situation where decades of gains can be lost in 4 years.
LEARN FROM THAT.
Now this is complete nonsense. All the analysis showing how much better Bernie would have done or Clinton would have done if she wasn't such a reptilian shows that, as well as the outcome of the popular vote.
What more moderation do you want, exactly? Not doing anything? Obamacare was a bipartisan agreement. LGBT rights are a matter of fact under the 14th, and if you tell people to just wait for some nebulous future where people are less evil I strongly suspect your answer will be "fuck you". Same for police brutality.
A segment of Trump's own voters don't even support him, they're just tired of political establishment and party corruption and think he'll screw it up for all of them.
Progress on issues are made through the advancement of those issues. Interracial marriage in the US only started to be accepted after the normalizing influence of Virginia v. Loving, not the other way around.
This election is not proof of some failure of progressiveness being too aggressive. If anything, that's the only aspect of this clusterfuck that clearly isn't that way, for the aforementioned popular victory and Bernie analysis. The people fucked up by proving how irresponsible they are, and Clinton fucked up by not foreseeing that and letting Trump be the hype candidate. And in the end, it was still down to a roll of the dice.
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