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[RedKing]

If something happened to kill that many of them in such a short time span, we'd probably be voting for Zombie Hillary Clinton vs. Zombie Donald Trump, because zombies are now roaming the Earth.

In which case, 2nd Amendment stances are suddenly going to be way more important. And there's going to be a bit less concern about police brutality. And Jill Stein would probably be busy blaming Monsanto and standing up for zombie rights.

[Wolfhunter107]

But there's no other option but to respect the electors, so long as they reach a majority. Even if Congress was stupid enough to try a power grab against a theoretical Stein presidency, it'd be immediately invalidated by the courts because it's blatantly unconstitutional. Your scenario falls apart the moment you look at it for more than a couple of seconds.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

A. The courts would probably not object for the sake of their political connections and not causing a domestic insurgency.

B. Even if they did try to object, see previous latin phrase.

Getting to a point like that is so extreme it would never even be considered before we started experiencing 2016, but if it did happen any "but the Constitution" would be meaningless.

[mainiac]

Fair enough, but if it's that much of a disaster it might as well keep going. More likely they would actually just count the electors as "Democrat and Republican" instead of by person and go from there, but if they didn't happen there's no way they'd respect the electors.

I'm thinking you dont understand the process here?

State governments certify lists of electors before the election.  When people vote for the candidates they are actually voting for the list of electors in their state.  So if I vote for Donald Trump in Maryland, I am actually voting for the list of electors who have signed a pledge to cast their votes for Donald Trump.  Generally speaking state law says that the state is required to certify the electors chosen by the vote.  Changing state law after the election would result in one hell of a lawsuit and probably result in a lot of impeachments.

So if Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine are in the same plane and it crashes on November 7th, the democrats would just scramble to pick a new candidate in a hurry.  Then Obama would go on the TV and tell people "Everyone, cast your votes for Hillary Clinton and when you do it will be a vote for Biden/Warren/O'Malley and a vote to stop Donald Trump."  And because it would be the news story of the century, everyone would pay attention and every news anchor in the country would explain constantly that a vote for Clinton/Kaine is actually a vote for whoever.

Then the vote would happen (and probably favor the democrats) and after the election all the Clinton electors would have plenty of time to talk things over and make sure they all agree.  Then they cast their votes in January for whoever they pick.  You might have a bunch of lawsuits at this point in the process between November 8th and January in which case all sorts of constitutional law comes into play but I'm thinking it's unlikely the courts change the result.

At no point in the process does congress enter into it.

[smjjames]

Also, you know, a thought had occured to me. If this were to happen, it would require ALL of the Reps to be present, especially on the republican side, no lame excuses for skipping out.

As for how, well, they'd just use the same system they use for voting on bills and stuff.

A. The courts would probably not object for the sake of their political connections and not causing a domestic insurgency.

B. Even if they did try to object, see previous latin phrase.

Getting to a point like that is so extreme it would never even be considered before we started experiencing 2016, but if it did happen any "but the Constitution" would be meaningless.

SCOTUS would be of absolutely no help here because of the 4-4 split.

Wait, I thought we were talking about the scenario where it gets thrown to the House and not the Electoral College electors?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I know perfectly well how it all works, but I'm telling you "how it works" doesn't matter in our fantastic Worst Case Scenario. Everybody would fall all over themselves, especially because, again, I'm fiating Jill Stein winning the election to begin with.

[mainiac]

It's a lazy scenario then.  People dont just say "oh no something bad happen, better start ignoring everything".  There is a very clear way to resolve this situation.  People wouldn't ignore the very obvious answer for no reason whatsoever.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

There's no very obvious solution for "JILL STEIN GONNA BE PRESIDENT" other than to let her be President, which they wouldn't stomach, especially not after the sudden deaths of the Everybody.

We were discussing something fantastic to begin with, I cannot believe this has become an actual argument.

[mainiac]

There's no very obvious solution for "JILL STEIN GONNA BE PRESIDENT"

Two economists are on a ship which sinks and they wash up on a sandy island.  They find a crate full of canned food on the island.  They sit around wondering how to get at the food.  Finally one of them comes up with a plan.
"Okay assume for a moment that we have a can opener..."

[Sergarr]

What, exactly, prevents the Congress from letting her to be the President, only to impeach her few days later? Unlike the congress putsch variant, impeachment is perfectly legal.

[Rolepgeek]

What, exactly, prevents the Congress from letting her to be the President, only to impeach her few days later? Unlike the congress putsch variant, impeachment is perfectly legal.

What high crimes and misdemeanors has she committed?

[SalmonGod]

Bernie sticks up for Hillary over her leaked comments about his supporters.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

There's no very obvious solution for "JILL STEIN GONNA BE PRESIDENT"

Two economists are on a ship which sinks and they wash up on a sandy island.  They find a crate full of canned food on the island.  They sit around wondering how to get at the food.  Finally one of them comes up with a plan.
"Okay assume for a moment that we have a can opener..."

"Guess we'll just bash it open with a rock and hope we don't get cholera"

Jesus christ, I try to have a bit of fun with nonsense and everybody gets all up in arms. I should hope the part where God Almighty strikes down Berine Sanders right before election day made it clear how seriously this should be taken (about as seriously as anybody takes the rule of law while it's mid-collapse).

What, exactly, prevents the Congress from letting her to be the President, only to impeach her few days later? Unlike the congress putsch variant, impeachment is perfectly legal.

What high crimes and misdemeanors has she committed?

Being Jill Stein.

Bernie sticks up for Hillary over her leaked comments about his supporters.

Something something shillary something something betrayed something something trilateral commission something something bought and paid for.

[mainiac]

I think if you wait a week or two, Jill Stein would commit a high crime or misdemeanor.

[RedKing]

Doesn't she already have an arrest record? Though impeachment for spray-painting a bulldozer would be about the lamest thing ever.