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« Reply #615 on: September 25, 2016, 06:36:59 pm »

Blue-collar = working class; white-collar = office drone; gold-collar = executive scumbag who will die in the revolution.
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« Reply #616 on: September 25, 2016, 06:56:16 pm »

"Science, Technology and Finance" is a poor choice of wording on my part, I'm just stuck for what to call it. Office work? Business work? Well that one just sounds stupid since all work is business work by definition. Not-mass-production-where-you-sit-on-a-production-line work? Skilled work? Help me out here.
Service industry, service economy. Is what it's called, last I paid attention. It's a pretty broad thing, (very) roughly "everything that's not manufacturing or resource extraction", but it's what's been used fairly broadly to describe the results of a transition from an industrial economy to post-industrial one.
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« Reply #617 on: September 25, 2016, 07:38:47 pm »

Wasn't page 3 the racy one?

Also, MorleyDev: you have many "should of" instead of "should have" type errors in that speech, my eye-twitching shows up on seismometers at this point, scaring the shit out of people watching the Ozark fault.
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« Reply #618 on: September 25, 2016, 08:34:12 pm »

Ah, he meant the service economy.

I mean, that still fits in the blue collar/white collar paradigm, only difference is that workers are mostly interacting with customers and information rather than tools and machines.

Uh, as in labor-saving-devices tools. Plenty of the human sort every day.
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« Reply #619 on: September 26, 2016, 01:56:25 am »

Not really. Being a janitor is definitely a blue-collar job, and also definitely a service one.
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« Reply #620 on: September 26, 2016, 02:41:43 am »

Also, MorleyDev: you have many "should of" instead of "should have" type errors in that speech, my eye-twitching shows up on seismometers at this point, scaring the shit out of people watching the Ozark fault.

I did a CTRL+F and found one use of "should of"? So "one" is "many" now? :)

But yeah, it's a hard habit to break. "Should of only brought benefit", "Should have only brought benefit".
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« Reply #621 on: September 26, 2016, 03:39:41 am »

May of/may have, etc, I knew what you meant but yeah.
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« Reply #622 on: September 26, 2016, 04:05:25 am »

Wasn't page 3 the racy one?
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« Reply #623 on: September 26, 2016, 05:26:34 am »

There's a speech by Malcom X about this...
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« Reply #624 on: September 26, 2016, 09:29:41 am »

Blue-collar = working class; white-collar = office drone; gold-collar = executive scumbag who will die in the revolution.
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« Reply #625 on: September 26, 2016, 01:54:59 pm »

There's a speech by Malcom X about this...
"I say to you my brothers, do not let them take our cheap porNOGraPHY, bring back the scantily clad insert models in... what's that you say? The speech was supposed to be about wage slavery? ...shit."
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« Reply #626 on: September 27, 2016, 04:40:50 pm »

So, it appears Boris Johnson wants to help Turkey (the country specifically mentioned as being a threat to Britain if it joined the EU) to...  join the EU.
Oh, and "can we have a big trade deal with you, please?"...
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« Reply #627 on: September 28, 2016, 06:04:33 am »

So, it appears Boris Johnson wants to help Turkey (the country specifically mentioned as being a threat to Britain if it joined the EU) to...  join the EU.
Oh, and "can we have a big trade deal with you, please?"...
No source, inferences not statements

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But yesterday, during his first official visit to Turkey, Mr Johnson said that Britain will "help Turkey in any way" now that it is leaving the EU. He also declined to apologise for previously writing a limerick about the "love that flowers" between the Turkish President and a goat.
Mr Johnson, whose great-grandfather Ali Kemal was briefly a Turkish minister shortly after World War I, also referred to his personal ties to Turkey. "Some of you may know this is the land of my fathers, this very (foreign) ministry is the place where my relatives used to work, (including) my great uncle Zeki Kuneralp."
Johnson Caliphate rises brothers
Anyways I'm glad he serves his nation's interests above his own political career, Turkey is one of our important trade partners, sources of foreign ministers, and we are allies, any way we can help Turkey without damaging ourselves is an easy choice to make

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Çelik said Turkey respected the British decision to leave the bloc but criticised the “anti-Turkish rhetoric” that emerged during the campaign.“We have to close this ugly parenthesis and look to the future,” he said.
Çelik also joked abouthe and Johnson having Ottoman ancestry. “We are both Ottomans. I had told him that it was important to pay visits to countries in which you have friends. He kept his promise. It means a great deal to us. The UK has always supported our EU membership bid,” he said.
Earlier on Monday at the start of his two-day visit, Johnson visited a refugee camp in Nizip, Gaziantep province, near Turkey’s border with Syria, and met exiled members of the Syrian opposition.
The trip is the highest level visit to Turkey by a British minister since the failed coup on 15 July, in which a rogue military faction tried to overthrow the Turkish government. The government claims the abortive coup was masterminded by an US-based Muslim cleric, Fethullah Gülen.
Johnson said the UK would cooperate with the Turkish authorities to get to the bottom of any Gülenist links in the UK. He said “Gülenism and the way that they act and the way they behave is very foreign to us. We are trying to learn as much as we can from our Turkish friends exactly what this organisations is, how it behaves, how it dictates an agenda.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/27/boris-johnson-turkey-recep-tayyip-erdogan-lewd-poem-mevlut-cavusoglu-kurds
Refugee stuff, good to help the refugees out there because it's the only humanitarian strategy that works, and naturally if the EU tries destroy us then the EU gets all the refugees we cared for
Interesting that Boris met members of exiled opposition in Syria and pledged support against Gulenists, suggesting the Turkic-British cooperation is more than one of convenience

Also in britpol news
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Since taking office in December, Macri has sought to strengthen his country’s ties with Britain and end the confrontational approach of the previous administration.
In a letter largely welcomed in Argentina, May wrote: “It is my sincere hope that, where we have differences, these can be acknowledged in an atmosphere of mutual respect and with the intention to act in a way that benefits all those concerned.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/10/may-calls-on-argentina-to-lift-falklands-oil-exploration-restrictions
Wait, they got rid of Kirchner? They want to work with us? Hot damnation, how can 2016 get any better?
There may even come a time where I am needing not a single Argentina meme

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« Reply #628 on: September 28, 2016, 08:12:19 am »

No source, inferences not statements
Parse error. There might be a word missing.after the comma.

For the source, seemed like every major UK news outlet and you clearly found your own (you quoted it, if not linked to what you quoted from) as I knew you/everyone would.

Inference can be inferred.

Yes, it was a bald statement. Was I editorialising?  Left out the poem stuff as apparently considered irrelevent to the discussion. Doesn't matter that it's Bojo, even, so apologies for adding that detail.

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Commit to your statements with the fury of a thousand fishing vessels, it's only Bojo
That sounds like a Cod War reference, but not entirely sure why it is. Sorry.
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« Reply #629 on: October 01, 2016, 11:46:07 pm »

For the source, seemed like every major UK news outlet and you clearly found your own (you quoted it, if not linked to what you quoted from) as I knew you/everyone would.
This is lazy a/f fam

Inference can be inferred.
But this is weak

Yes, it was a bald statement. Was I editorialising?  Left out the poem stuff as apparently considered irrelevent to the discussion. Doesn't matter that it's Bojo, even, so apologies for adding that detail.
If we all give up on quality posting then we'll all just start parroting propaganda without verification

Too often I see people post something about some complex situation about something on the other side of the planet and then everyone starts voicing their opinion on it without having even first checked whether it existed or was factually true

That sounds like a Cod War reference, but not entirely sure why it is. Sorry.
It's not a cod war reference, I just like the fury of a thousand fishing vessels

In other news

Theresa May to make EU law fuck off
10/10 best PM

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Theresa May could almost quadruple her majority if she calls an early election, analysis by Britain’s leading pollster suggests today as influential Tories go public with calls for a snap vote.

The Prime Minister’s majority in the House of Commons would soar from 12 to 44 on current polling, according to analysis by Prof John Curtice, president of the British Polling Council.
-Pollsters predicted a contested election of 2015, possibly even hung parliament, with labour leading the polls
-Pollsters predicted an easy Remain victory comfortably in the lead
-Pollsters now predicting Theresa May would have a landslide victory

WATCH OUT MAY, THEY'RE COMIN FOR YE
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