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[chaoticag]

No worries, just share your dark magic with us when you are done. I get the feeling I should have just marched my niefel giants over to agartha when I had the chance. I mean, hey, I erased more nations this time around than my last game technically.
Also, sorry if it takes me a while, I tend to do my turns around 20 hours from now. I usually end up doing stuff before and after lately.

[Jilladilla]

No worries, just share your dark magic with us when you are done. I get the feeling I should have just marched my niefel giants over to agartha when I had the chance. I mean, hey, I erased more nations this time around than my last game technically.
Also, sorry if it takes me a while, I tend to do my turns around 20 hours from now. I usually end up doing stuff before and after lately.

Yup, I'll try to share my analysis when this is done, and yes, you should have. Now, I did start spamming Magma Children when I realized you were my neighbor, and they DO beat Niefel Giants in Heat scales (Not 1v1 obviously, but they do their damage)... But I don't think I could've gotten enough to hold you off, especially if you waited until mid/late autumnish to attack, taking advantage of your dominions property of spreading your cold scales in adjacent provinces initially and the seasons to mitigate any advantage my magma children had.

Now initial advice I can give? What went wrong? What went right? How could you adapt to beat what is beating you? What could've been done instead? Ask yourselves these questions and try to analyze what happened. Yes, this is exactly what I do, if I'm not flailing around trying to figure out HOW exactly to use my nation (a game where I was playing EA Ermor comes to mind...), and it's why I can say EA Agartha is my best nation. (Also, funnily enough chaoticag, this strategy came about when I was getting beaten up badly by Niefel Giants.)

And don't worry everyone! I'm nowhere near as good with most other nations! (Remember, I did say I would let you guys pick my nation for the next round. Just don't put me in the pilot seat for Arcoscephale. Please. I'm begging you. Don't.)

[ThtblovesDF]

I really ment more banter then critic, it's all good. Plus, we killed all the newbs already like the animals we are...

[Shadowlord]

I'm only holding on because of my bless and because my pretender has D9 and can summon metric asstons of longdead horsemen every turn, but not enough to really overwhelm the tide of boars.

I expect, ThtblovesDF, if you don't crush me militarily soon, you'll probably dom-kill me. My plan was to invade and conquer everyone around me, taking their land, but by the time I had a sufficient army of sacreds, it was too late because the boar machine was fully operational.

(I'm not resigning, mind you, this is still fun, and I'm sure the AI would just be a pushover)

Jilladilla: Have you ever played Caelum? (They're actually not terrible these days)

[Jilladilla]

Nope. Tried it out a bit in single player, didn't like it. If the nation isn't heavy on earth or death I won't have much translatable practical experience to give. Theoretical stuff only. Yes, I am a case of crippling overspecialization when it comes to nations in this game...

[Shadowlord]

Air magic is pretty nice, if only for the battle evocations (although they aren't as good as magma eruption IMHO).

I've only played one game against them, in MA, as Marignon, and won because fire arrows, flying sacreds, and knights to absorb mammoth charges. Actually, I think I really won because I was bigger (from eating Pangaea), had better scales (and the fire arrows were from mages instead of a bless - I took no bless), made far more troops and armies, and basically attacked them from all sides at once and they didn't have the strength to defend against more than one army at a time.

Of course, strong scales don't work for everyone. In our current game here, if I had been playing Xibalba with strong scales and no bless, I'd have lost far, far sooner, because xibalban troops are just awful and I wouldn't have been able to get a sufficient blood economy up and running to get demon knight mass production going. I'd have had a couple vampire lords, but they wouldn't have been able to stop boar spam (regardless of their bless).

[chaoticag]

Man, time has kinda flown by, I was hoping that bumping up to a higher skill level game would end up with me losing by now. I'll try and get my next turns in done on time, but it's nearing the end of Ramadan, eid is about to start, and after that I'm travelling with family on vacation, which is fun, but I probably won't have enough time to continue submitting turns. Any readers of this thread want to substitute in?

[ThtblovesDF]

Would be a shame to see you leave, but we understand.

We could also push hosting time, but I think we are withhin 15 turns of knowing who wins, one way or another : )

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I learned something again - Supplies - even those provided by magic items (!) are also influenced by dominion - so my 3x Endless Wine produces less then (3x50) 150 Supplies. The more you know.

I also might be unsiegeable for a while, producing 3 digits of boars each turn and they are pretty good at siege defence.

[chaoticag]

Death scales was probably a poor choice for the boarpocalypse.

[Shadowlord]

I also have them too, which doesn't help with his attempts to invade me.

[Jilladilla]

We could also push hosting time, but I think we are withhin 15 turns of knowing who wins, one way or another : )

It'll be a lot sooner than 15 turns I feel...

I also might be unsiegeable for a while, producing 3 digits of boars each turn and they are pretty good at siege defence.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You don't Siege Defense against EA Agartha. 

[Karlito]

Any readers of this thread want to substitute in?

Lol, I'd do it. Except, Marverni really needs to put in the effort to kill me properly. I mean, look at this sad performance:

Spoiler: Son, I am disappoint (click to show/hide)

I think most of my losses were from friendly fire as well.

[ThtblovesDF]

I'm still fighting on 3 frontlines, against the former highest score dude and the current highest score at the same time, I'm doing ok given the circumstances - and vanheim just isn't relevant anymore.

And... how is losing to a Monolith (god knows how he moves himself outside the gate) shameful? Those Vanherses cost you more then my entire army cost me.

Realisticly with each turn the global stays, Agartha gets close to winning (4surez) - it helps that he had a gem income of 50+ for like 20 turns (digusting) - imagine me with that same income for that time. Twice the boars.

[Jilladilla]

Actually, the global was just something I felt doing. (Did anyone panic thinking it was something else? Pretty sure I demonstrated I had Alt 9 when I cast it...) I also had far more earth gems than I knew what to do with (I think my stockpile went over 200 before I started alchemizing them en mass for water gems.)

Heck, I used a horror marked caster for it! (All my other high earth oracles were busy... I think...)
Irregardless, I don't think it will actually impact my odds of winning or losing much (unless my current plan fails horribly, in which case it's a great backup plan..)

Also Karlito, Thtbloves has a point. Boar kills are meaningless unless you're killing A LOT of them (I'm not looking at any of the score graphs, but my vague memories of the impact of that one big success I had, I'm guessing Marverni has over 2000 boars? I'm just guesstimating from vague memories though), and the blood bless renders them fairly cost efficient little buggers. Of course, there is one spell that is Extremely effective against them..... I don't think you can cast it though...

Welp, once again I spend far too long typing this and it got much longer than I initially anticipated...

[ThtblovesDF]

I feel like many of the paths where set early on by Theos aggression towards land instead of focus on water and my total lack of anything (research, items, gems that I don't have to use for boars, water breathing). If I wouldn't have such a strong distaste for being flooded with stealthy armys (Xibala + Vanheim) and just *cough* trusted shadowlord that such a thing as scout guards exists, we could have both rolled up Vanheim and you'd actually have to face something of a effective/mixed army.

In short: Being far away from big bad Vanheim, Theo putting his focus elsewhere, Xibalas "oh putting armys in your territory is not naughty" and overall land-nation-infighting has left you with plenty of time - Did you luck out on all those amazing sites or did you spam site-searching spells? Also where the hell is your Capital, I can see all provinces and I can't see it. So strange.