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makeshift 8

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Is this normal...?
« on: May 22, 2016, 11:22:52 pm »

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They won't stop reading. They won't do anything.




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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 11:30:20 pm »

Would you please give us more detail? It looks your dwarves somehow got hold of a Necromancy tome, which is in and of itself unusual.
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 11:34:42 pm »

Mostly this was intentional. I had one of my adventurers create a few manuals for some visiting scholars to see what would happen. Unfortunatly, I didn't anticipate this happening so fast. Anyone who enters the library eventually reads one of the texts. What my question revolves around is this: Is it normal for necro-dwarves to sit and read all day instead of doing what I tell them? Because they won't mine, farm or anything else except scholarly stuff.
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2016, 11:38:02 pm »

So.... Apparently some necromancers have found some body parts of some goblins outside the fort. We held them off there earlier.... This will get interesting.
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2016, 11:38:43 pm »

Well that's hilarious
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2016, 11:39:05 pm »

Pretty sure it's normal for most dwarves to congregate in the library when it exists.
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2016, 11:48:19 pm »

Curious enough, necromancers that raise the undead will still try to attack them in fort mode.
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2016, 11:57:43 pm »

I would like to announce that this is officially a bad idea, and that anyone who does indeed turn the entire population into necromancers will experience much fun.
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 01:38:25 am »

You will always get loads of dwarves not doing what they are supposed to do when you have a library, temple and tavern. I suppose a necromancer has a ramped up tendency to read?

I would like to announce that this is officially a bad idea, and that anyone who does indeed turn the entire population into necromancers will experience much fun.

How is it a bad idea then? Infact it makes me want to do it.
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 03:58:03 pm »

It is bad enough to implode a fortress. The issue is that when your necromancers raise dead, and the dead attack everyone else, the necromancers attack the undead they raised. This starts a huge battle that eventually leads to more raised undead. Think of it as a fort siege. Except there are 30 necromancers. And they started inside the base. To add to the problems, many visiting scholars ended up reading my many copies of "the secrets of life and death."

I do recommend doing it just to see what happens. Bonus: Have a fort with 140 necromancers.

Edit: I also created a huge sprawling "Library of Alexandria" fort. I had about 60 scholars bumming around the library reading. And 5 scribes.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2016, 04:00:37 pm by makeshift 8 »
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 02:14:39 am »

I do recommend doing it just to see what happens. Bonus: Have a fort with 140 necromancers.
Is this before or after the carnage?

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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 05:03:25 am »

Have your visitor necromancers spread the word to any neighbouring sites yet?
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2016, 10:56:44 am »

I wonder what the world will look like in a few hundred years, with all of those new necromancers running around.
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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 01:23:37 pm »

Have your visitor necromancers spread the word to any neighbouring sites yet?

No, but I would imagine it would only be a matter of time considering the sheer number of scholars.

I wonder what the world will look like in a few hundred years, with all of those new necromancers running around.

I will continue updating to see what happens. For !!SCIENCE!!

I do recommend doing it just to see what happens. Bonus: Have a fort with 140 necromancers.
Is this before or after the carnage?

Before. Defiantly before. I lost almost all of my dorfs. I had such a big library and awesome fort that I didn't want to give it up.

Edit: I (thankfully) scummed right before dying by way of undead. So, apparently having an all necro fort is not that bad. No food is needed, or drink. I don't know if they get withdraw, which may be a really bad thing.... We'll see. So far, I locked everyone in the library. Also, I don't know if anyone had this issue, but there were a bunch of hostile visitors I had to kill with my military. Thank god the necros didn't find any body parts. We'll see how this works out.

Edit edit: So... After having 90 percent of my dorfs turned I learned something. They don't really do anything after being turned. They sit in the library and read books. Almost all active job designations (mine, gather plants, cut trees, build) is being ignored for a good long time. However, passive ones like fishing and the like are number one priories. They may finally do as I say, but they seem to want to read a great deal more now than ever. I have miners sitting and reading without ever having that issue before. They don't eat or drink, but I still haven't found out if they get withdraw. Recently, I had all the refuse and corpses moved before the necro problem got too bad. I had to autodump destroy it in DFHack to be certain. The military works about as well as ever.

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Re: Is this normal...?
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2016, 07:35:11 am »


They don't really do anything after being turned. They sit in the library and read books. Almost all active job designations (mine, gather plants, cut trees, build) is being ignored for a good long time. However, passive ones like fishing and the like are number one priories.


I think this is because they are too lazy, and all the work for them should be do by zombies. :)
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