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[ragincajun]

So I've always put armor stands/weapon racks in all barracks including ranged.  And then I assign each individual range as well.  I was reading a post yesterday (it links to a Wiki page on how to properly get marksdwarfs training) and it said do not put stands/racks; just to use the ranges.  I've done that and none of my ranged guys will start training.

Yes...they are set to Active/Training in alerts
Yes...I've adjusted the min/max to "1" for ranged units
Yes...each individual Archery Target is set up; has the correct direction; and assigned to the squad.
Yes...there are quivers, crossbows and bolts.

So is the Wiki wrong?  Do you have to have stands/racks and make a double barracks (like I've always done before)?

[ManaUser]

I don't know if armor stand and weapon racks hurt anything, but they definitely aren't required.

When you you say you set the min/max to 1, do you mean you did the thing where you give them a whole bunch of separate "Train 1" orders? Or is it just 1 total?

Check if your dwarves have bolts in their quivers. That should at least help narrow down the problem.

[Shonai_Dweller]

Set minimum to 1 is a misguided piece of old advice. It may help in certain exceptional circumstances if you know exactly what you're doing. You don't need it to get a marksdwarf squad working.

It's odd, but almost every post in the past year or so which states 'marksdwarves aren't working'  also contains 'wiki told me not to set a barracks'. It may be coincidence, it certainly requires more Science, but there could be a link and there's absolutely no disadvantage to giving marksdwarves a barracks as intended.

[Goatmaan]

Did you set the number of bolts for the squad?
At least 25 per dwarf.
There are bolts is kind of vague.

  Goatmaan

[bmxbumpkin]

Quick question, I frequently get down to a few (say 10) stacksof bolts left and my marksdwarves won't use them. Its almost as if they are forbidden or already allocated to something else(hinting maybe?)When I start pumping out more bolts my squad rushes over, grabs a stack and starts training immediately. I feel this could be the cause of a lot of peoples problems. Any ideas?

[ragincajun]

Did you set the number of bolts for the squad?
At least 25 per dwarf.
There are bolts is kind of vague.

  Goatmaan

Bolts are at 100

[ragincajun]

I don't know if armor stand and weapon racks hurt anything, but they definitely aren't required.

When you you say you set the min/max to 1, do you mean you did the thing where you give them a whole bunch of separate "Train 1" orders? Or is it just 1 total?

Check if your dwarves have bolts in their quivers. That should at least help narrow down the problem.

Just 1 total.

[Goatmaan]

Bmxbumpkin,
I "think" the hunters arr set to have 250? bolts by default.
Check hunters bolts in ammunition scteen. Or is it 100? Hmnn.

 Goatmaan

[greycat]

It's odd, but almost every post in the past year or so which states 'marksdwarves aren't working'  also contains 'wiki told me not to set a barracks'. It may be coincidence, it certainly requires more Science, but there could be a link and there's absolutely no disadvantage to giving marksdwarves a barracks as intended.

After about 6 tries, I think I finally found the page that has this advice on it: Advanced Marksdwarf Training Guide.  (It's pretty hard to find, as it's not directly linked from Training or Marksdwarf or Archery... I finally found it linked from Military.)

Of course we can't be sure which page the OP was reading, since they never bother to say.

I'm going to leave the page as is for now, until I have some more concrete information disproving what it says.  I don't use archery ranges myself, so I don't have much experience trying to get dwarves to train at them.

[ragincajun]

It's odd, but almost every post in the past year or so which states 'marksdwarves aren't working'  also contains 'wiki told me not to set a barracks'. It may be coincidence, it certainly requires more Science, but there could be a link and there's absolutely no disadvantage to giving marksdwarves a barracks as intended.

After about 6 tries, I think I finally found the page that has this advice on it: Advanced Marksdwarf Training Guide.  (It's pretty hard to find, as it's not directly linked from Training or Marksdwarf or Archery... I finally found it linked from Military.)

Of course we can't be sure which page the OP was reading, since they never bother to say.

I'm going to leave the page as is for now, until I have some more concrete information disproving what it says.  I don't use archery ranges myself, so I don't have much experience trying to get dwarves to train at them.

Greycat, I am pretty sure that is the page I was referencing.  Sorry for not pointing it out in the OP.

In the section under "Setting Barracks" it says do NOT assign a barracks and then goes on how to assign the archery targets.  I followed that but they never did start training.  I made another the "old" way with an armor stand and weapon rack and they would go in and shoot and do Instruction.

[greycat]

It's highly probable that the wiki page is wrong, or partly wrong.  I just don't know what the right answers are myself, since this is not one of the aspects of the game that I personally pursue.

I made some edits in other sections of that page, though.

[Mostali]

I'm on .43.02, using archery ranges without barracks and my archers are training okay.  I believe the only reason not to assign a barracks as well as archery range is that archers will split their training between shooting and other training exercises.  I'm not certain that's good advice though, as my archer squads without barracks don't spend near as much time training (not measured, just casual observation) as squads I've assigned to barracks.  So it may actually be counterproductive to have archer squads not assigned to barracks.  As usual, more science is needed.