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[Failbird105]

Whichever team gets Space-birbs is the one I'll be joining. If its none of them then I'll take some more time to look into the others I guess

[Tyrant Leviathan]

My one shame is I cannot do maps to save my life.

[NAV]

Please Draig, no!! Cinder Spires is already the most complicated forum game I know on this forum, running another one would be suicide!

[Draignean]

Please Draig, no!! Cinder Spires is already the most complicated forum game I know on this forum, running another one would be suicide!

[Mad Science Laugh]

That's exactly why I must! By running this, the relative complexity of Cinder Spires will be greatly diminished! It's logic, LOGIC I SAY!

[Rockeater]

Please Draig, no!! Cinder Spires is already the most complicated forum game I know on this forum, running another one would be suicide!

[Mad Science Laugh]

That's exactly why I must! By running this, the relative complexity of Cinder Spires will be greatly diminished! It's logic, LOGIC I SAY!

You still need to write turns for both of those, but as long as your masochism don't hurt anyone, I am fine.

[Blood_Librarian]

what are the space birbs again?

[Shadowclaw777]

There relating the Aztec feathered dragons to the birds

[Draignean]

what are the space birbs again?

These are the Morrigi.

[Parsely]

What if you could formally and permanently make equipment obsolete as a free action during the design or revision phase? What that does is make it so that equipment is no longer used for combat turns but is still available as research. I see this mainly as a way to help GMs with upkeep and players with not having too much junk to keep track of, it also makes sense that a military would retire equipment instead of having a constantly growing list of types of weapons that would begin to strain logistics.

I'm not sure what the reward would be. Maybe if you decide to obsolete a piece of equipment you can apply a bonus to a design or a revision roll? I don't think players should be punished for having too much gear or that hard caps should be put on gear, just that a mechanic should be put in place to allow useless equipment to naturally become extinct or to recycle a bad design into the next turn as a comeback (or a last resort) mechanic when one side is having really bad luck so that a losing side doesn't lose a ton of momentum when they critically fail.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

What if you could formally and permanently make equipment obsolete as a free action during the design or revision phase? What that does is make it so that equipment is no longer used for combat turns but is still available as research. I see this mainly as a way to help GMs with upkeep and players with not having too much junk to keep track of, it also makes sense that a military would retire equipment instead of having a constantly growing list of types of weapons that would begin to strain logistics.

I'm not sure what the reward would be. Maybe if you decide to obsolete a piece of equipment you can apply a bonus to a design or a revision roll? I don't think players should be punished for having too much gear or that hard caps should be put on gear, just that a mechanic should be put in place to allow useless equipment to naturally become extinct or to recycle a bad design into the next turn as a comeback (or a last resort) mechanic when one side is having really bad luck so that a losing side doesn't lose a ton of momentum when they critically fail.

GMs tend to do that already when things are truly supplanted.  There's just that many different roles to play.

[Parsely]

GMs tend to do that already when things are truly supplanted.  There's just that many different roles to play.

Eh? Is there an Arms Race where this is an explicitly mechanic and not just something GMs do because they've gone over the word count on a post? If there is I wasn't aware and I retract what I said.

Otherwise:
I'm not sure if you understood my suggestion? I know that GMs already push older designs into a "legacy" or "obsolete" category when they interpret them to be overshadowed by another weapon, but they do that to save space in equipment posts and because they can't write about every single weapon in battle reports, it's not an action the players make and no one is rewarded for it, that's just bookkeeping. I'm saying to put the responsibility on the players to decide when something is obsolete and reward that action with a bonus to a design or revision roll.

[NAV]

Except for Draignean, he just makes a several page long google doc for each team instead.

I do agree that a (very small) reward for eliminating things from armoury is a good idea.

[Doomblade187]

Except for Draignean, he just makes a several page long google doc for each team instead.

I do agree that a (very small) reward for eliminating things from armoury is a good idea.

Agreed. Maybe cost reduction?

[Man of Paper]

I've been working on a set of rules for an AR I'm mulling over. I've asked some questions about various ways to roll (some of which didn't even include rolling!), but I felt like exploring a new possibility. I decided to see how rolling 2d6 would turn out, with the catch being 6,7, and 8 all being "Average" on an unmodified roll. I wound up getting a sample size of 500 rolls, making sure to stop every 50 to get more accurate stats for various lengths of games. While obviously luck will always play a factor, I'm fairly pleased with the results.


The amount of rolls are arranged in order of total - 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12, and would be categorized as Failure(2), Buggy(3), Poor(4), Below Average(5), Average(6,7,8), Above Average(9), Excellent(10), Superior(11), Unexpected Boon(12).
Next to the individual rolls I total the combined Low, Average, and High rolls, which makes it easier to see how things line up.

50:3/3/6/5/7/10/3/4/4/2/3                      Lo:17 Avg:20 Hi:13
100:9/7/9/8/12/21/10/8/7/4/5                 Lo:33 Avg:43 Hi:24
150:9/9/14/10/22/35/21/11/8/6/5            Lo:42 Avg:78 Hi:30
200:10/13/18/14/34/41/25/15/10/6/7       Lo:55 Avg:100 Hi:38
250:13/15/20/19/44/48/32/25/15/10/9      Lo:67 Avg:124 Hi:59
300:14/18/23/28/53/54/37/28/22/13/10    Lo:83 Avg:144 Hi:73
350:14/21/26/35/57/61/48/33/26/16/13    Lo:96 Avg:166 Hi:88
400:15/22/31/43/70/70/51/35/28/19/16    Lo:111 Avg:191 Hi:98
450:15/25/31/53/82/79/58/43/36/22/16    Lo:124 Avg:219 Hi:117
500:17/27/35/56/95/87/65/49/37/23/19    Lo:135 Avg:247 Hi:128


In my opinion a near-50% chance to get an Average roll with a 25% chance of going either way isn't bad. I'd like to get some other opinions on the matter, but I think it's worth a spin.

[NUKE9.13]

Uh. Why did you actually roll dice to figure that out? It's fairly simple statistics.