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[TempAcc]

Western culture isn't seen as some stupid foreign thing by these people, its seen as an active threat to themselves and everything they believe, and many see destroying it as part of their life goal and duty to god, and bloody murder is seen as a great way to go about solving this.

This isn't saying that every muslim is a murder waiting to happen, but the idea of western culture being a thing to be destroyed is an idea that is supported by more than a few Iman, to the point that its essentialy part of their doctrine.

[Sheb]

Yeah, although it's not clear where the information that it had anything to do with the clothing worn by the women comes from. To quote the French article you linked "According to information collected by iTELE, the cause of the attack is not clear, but might be linked to the clothes worn by the mother and her daughters." They don't say who gave them that information.

[Sergarr]

No funeral services to be provided for pro-coup figures killed during coup attempt,Turkey's religious authority says.

All political prisoners in Turkey are now denied the right to meet lawyers, family, & make phone calls.

Erdogan appears to no longer give a single fuck about looking democratic. Amazing.

[martinuzz]

Lol what would happen if the UN sends independent observers, and Turkey calls that an invasion and invokes article 5. Would the NATO have to attack the UN forces?

[Sergarr]

I think NATO would tell Erdogan to "fuck off" in that particular case. Article 5 doesn't specify the exact magnitude of expected response, anyway, so there's that technical cop-out possible, too.

[martinuzz]

Not too long after gemany's authorities firmly denied that the 17 year old afghan attacker had had any contact with IS, but rather was self-radicalized, IS media agency Amaq placed a video made by him online, in which he swears allegiance to IS, calls others to follow his example, and show a knife with which he is going to kill infidels. I wonder how they got that, when he 'never had contact with IS'.

[Sergarr]

Turkey's state media says ministry of education sacks 15,200 for alleged ties to group govt blames for failed coup.

some Stalin-level shit going on there

[martinuzz]

Next, he'll invade Georgia to add his fatherland the the Great Erdogannoman Empire.

[smjjames]

Turkey's state media says ministry of education sacks 15,200 for alleged ties to group govt blames for failed coup.

some Stalin-level shit going on there

Sacking over 15,000 teachers and professors?

When he said he was going to clean house, he meant it literally I suppose.

It's like Stalin is heading Nazi Germany (an apt example, given his previous 'Come on, I just want to be like Hitler!'). Rather than communism, it's going towards good old fashioned fascism, but with Stalin's purging.

At least he isn't marching them to Gulags (or the Turkish versions) and shooting them all. And did Erdogan seriously say 'come on, I want to be like Hitler!'?

[martinuzz]

No, he just said that Hitler's Germany was an example of a succesful popular democracy like the one he envisions

[smjjames]

Pfft, Erdogan is absolutely clueless about history if he thinks it's okay to emulate Hitler.

[martinuzz]

Oh he's shown great historical awareness before, when he commented that Germany should start making amends for their genocide, before having the right to say anything in the Armenian issue debate.

[Sergarr]

At least he isn't marching them to Gulags (or the Turkish versions) and shooting them all.

For now. I think the fact that he ordered to deny all of the politically prosecuted people lawyers, combined with him wanting to reinstate death penalty, means that he certainly wants to do that very, very much.

Pfft, Erdogan is absolutely clueless about history if he thinks it's okay to emulate Hitler.

Turkey is a bit harder to invade and occupy than Germany, though. It has got a lot of natural obstacles on any possible invasion routes, like seas and mountains, plus more than half of population is indoctrinated into fanatical worship of Erdogan and are ready to sacrifice their lives at a single call of their Dear Leader President.

[martinuzz]

That, and the Turkish Army, even after coup cleansings, is still the largest standing army in the region, partially trained by the US, and well equipped.

I'm rather curious what the PKK have been doing the past days though. Surely the coup must have distracted the army's attention away from them. Next coup, kemalist-PKK alliance?

[Sergarr]

That, and the Turkish Army, even after coup cleansings, is still the largest standing army in the region, partially trained by the US, and well equipped.

Yeah, it's kind of like Iraq in 1991, if Iraq's army was actually competent. Which is kind of scary, given than now all that power is falling into the hands of a power-mad dictator.