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[Orange Wizard]

It's mostly just British Opt-Out-ism

[Rolepgeek]

If the opposing party is patriotic, how can you possibly be patriotic and still call yourself progressive? I mean, it's just common sense. Love of country=racism.

And vice versa, obviously. Criticism of your country means you hate it, and are obviously a traitorous Fascist commie Hippie Islamist spy, sent to destroy the very bedrock of our society.

[Sheb]

But I do partially agree with you on Sweden. A close family friend's lived up north there for years and he mentioned how if you have a criminal  record there it's a really big thing, no matter what for, because it's so uncommon.

Things were less idealistic in the south, due to higher population density, but there is no doubt that crime rates have soared due to huge numbers of unemployed young men from a radically different culture who don't speak the language.

Have the crime rate soared though? Sure, you see a lot of right-wing websites with claim stuff like "Rape Rose 1400 % over the last 40 years", blaming the increase on immigrants, but they're either being liar or stupid, as they're purposefully letting out that both the definition and the reporting of rape change dramatically over the last 40 years (Domestic rape, having sex with someone unconscious (but not disagreeing), many things like what Assange did weren't rape in 1975. Sweden also records rape differently: someone raped by his or her partner dozens of time over a relationship would be counted as one crime in many country's statistics, but each count would be counted separately in Sweden).

[Orange Wizard]

Comparing rape and assault statistics between countries is usually a waste of time I think, because they're defined differently everywhere and it's hard to get a solid picture of things.

In NZ, for instance, the reported rape rate is lower than elsewhere, because women can't be charged with it. That goes over to indecent assault, which also includes stuff like groping or whatever.

[Vilanat]

I guess it's true, but it still comes down to the participation rate of Immigrants/Refugees in sex crimes proprtional to their share of the population. Non-european Immigrants that is, since Sweden has a tendency to mask it's immigrants social problems behind their multitues of Swede speaking fins that immigrated in the past.

I have no idea whats the Immigrants/Refugees participation rate number is, but i'm sure it's an easily obtainable data...

[Orange Wizard]

I have no idea whats the Immigrants/Refugees participation rate number is, but i'm sure it's an easily obtainable data...

Pretty low or extremely high, depending on who you ask. It's a pain in the arse to get race-related data on crime pretty much everywhere because "encouraging racism" is apparently a capital offence.

[Sheb]

I guess it's true, but it still comes down to the participation rate of Immigrants/Refugees in sex crimes proprtional to their share of the population. Non-european Immigrants that is, since Sweden has a tendency to mask it's immigrants social problems behind their multitues of Swede speaking fins that immigrated in the past.

I have no idea whats the Immigrants/Refugees participation rate number is, but i'm sure it's an easily obtainable data...

Probably not actually, since most European countries don't track ethnicity.

[Vilanat]

Don't they track origin country, which is just as good?

[DJ]

In NZ, for instance, the reported rape rate is lower than elsewhere, because women can't be charged with it.

What, not even statutory?

[Orange Wizard]

In NZ, for instance, the reported rape rate is lower than elsewhere, because women can't be charged with it.

What, not even statutory?

Indecent assault on a minor IIRC

[Kot]

You know, just wondering out of random curiosity, in Europe, is there such a thing as British Exceptionalism?, French Exceptionalism? German Exceptionalism? <insert name of nation that is not America> Exceptionalism?

Spoiler: Yuo so silly (click to show/hide)

WINGED HUSSARS! POLAND STRONG WORLD WE WAR YOU! CONQUERING KREMLIN AND BERLIN! CENTER OF EUROPE! CHRISTOPER COLUMBUS WAS POLISH! 123 YEARS OF SLAVERY BUT WE CAME ON TOP! EVERYONE HATES US BUT WE'RE STILL BETTER! WILNO AND LWÓW RIGHTFUL POLISH CLAY! POLISH SARMATIAN NOBILITY! HERMASZEWSKI WE CAN INTO SPACE! DEFENDING EUROPE AGAINST MUSLIM HORDES! WINGED HUSSARS! FOR FREEDOM OURS AND YOURS! BETRAYAL IN THE WEST! IF WORLD LISTENED TO US WW2 WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED! ELECTIONS BEFORE IT WAS POPULAR! WINGED HUSSARS! HELIOCENTRIC THEORY! CEDYNIA! GRUNWALD! VARNA! KIRCHOLM! VIENNA! SOMOSSIERA! WESTERPLATTE! MONTE CASSINO! WINGED HUSSARS! KURWA!

[martinuzz]

When searching his foster parent's home, police have found an IS flag in the 17 year old Afghan's room.. Is has also claimed the attack.

Two of the axe victims are still in critical condition. All victims were from the same family, a Chinese family from Hongkong. According to the South China Morning Post, a father, mother, daughter and a friend of the family were injured, their 17 year old son remained unharmed.

I guess any foster parent sheltering a refugee child should start searching their rooms on a regular basis, and look for IS flags and axes.

[Loud Whispers]

It's mostly just British Fuck-this-shit-I'm-out-ism

Ftfy
See also:
British Fuck-I-never-signed-up-for-this-ism

Also French Ameriphobia, German Germaphobia, Danes reluctant yuropoor and Visegrad International Socialists

Reading up on the term seems to basically paint it as 'Americans think they/their country is better than the rest of the world'.

Pretty much
USA USA USA FREEDOM AINT FREE FREEDOM AINT FREE

Hard to rain on their parade cos they know they're #1

Probably not actually, since most European countries don't track ethnicity.

Sweden stopped when they stopped liking the stats they tracked
Same as with migration lel
Not sure about Belgium, but who cares

When searching his foster parent's home, police have found an IS flag in the 17 year old Afghan's room.. Is has also claimed the attack.
Two of the axe victims are still in critical condition. All victims were from the same family, a Chinese family from Hongkong. According to the South China Morning Post, a father, mother, daughter and a friend of the family were injured, their 17 year old son remained unharmed.
I guess any foster parent sheltering a refugee child should start searching their rooms on a regular basis, and look for IS flags and axes.

Tfw you shelter refugees and get axed cos of yuropoors
Poor Hong Kongers, they are the best

Have the crime rate soared though? Sure, you see a lot of right-wing websites with claim stuff like "Rape Rose 1400 % over the last 40 years", blaming the increase on immigrants, but they're either being liar or stupid, as they're purposefully letting out that both the definition and the reporting of rape change dramatically over the last 40 years (Domestic rape, having sex with someone unconscious (but not disagreeing), many things like what Assange did weren't rape in 1975. Sweden also records rape differently: someone raped by his or her partner dozens of time over a relationship would be counted as one crime in many country's statistics, but each count would be counted separately in Sweden).

Well Sheb now you're just being deliberately deluded and straight up ignoring facts. Only people who have deliberately been lying and been stupid are Yuropoors who can't handle consequences for enrichment, and caught between women being raped by migrants, can't decide which protected group to ignore, so ignore both.
Swedish authorities' propensity for covering up migrant rape only rivals UK Labour. Bathhouses shut down cos not even 12 year olds were safe, Swedish security guards couldn't even deal with it because they lived in some bizarro peace world. You know it's fucked when the only way you can force your own authorities to not coverup enriching crime is if you expose them unwillingly. You guys have what happened to the UK on crack cocaine

Quite typical really, the conversation was much the same with the refugees 2014-2015, when we started finding ISIS fighters in Calais and Macedonia, when they started declaring their intent to go home and establish a homefront to begin training another generation in what they learned in Syria. Government advisors said it, a gun runner said it, we had fighters caught on the borders and the Swedes and Danes were even bringing them home on purpose and in Europe megathread, people said that was stupid, lies and propaganda - and now Yuros got tortured to death because of that, and are being told by their politicians to learn to live with that rofl

It's almost like no one saw it coming

*EDIT
Also have the 2014 coverup for this cheeky snippet from Swedish diversity police

“These are so-called refugee youths, specifically from Afghanistan. Several of the gang were arrested for sexual molestation,” one police memo said.

So-called refugee youths, so-called Islamic state, same language used by the police lol

The prime minister, Stefan Löfven, said this amounted to a double betrayal since no one was prosecuted for the crimes and the police did not make them public.

Yeah Swedish rape stats are actually lower than they should be due to the coverups. Let that sink in

[martinuzz]

While you mention Calais.. Has deconstruction of the Canal tunnel started yet or is it still construction worker's holiday season?

[martinuzz]

Three people, including a shooter were shot and killed near a spa in Lincolnshire.
Police say there's no indication that it has anything to do with terrorism. They also say that the police didn't fire any shots, so looks like it was just a shootout between criminals.