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[martinuzz]

In response to the Böhmermann affair, a majority of the Dutch parliament voted in favour of a proposition from the liberal party to scrap the law that forbids insulting a head of a foreign state today.
So basically if a similar thing would be recited here, there's no chance that Erdogan can even ask us to take legal action anymore. Scrapping the law prevents that.
So I guess if Böhmermann gets convicted he could always apply for asylum over here 

 

[smjjames]

So, um, what happened with Hollande? From the way the first paragraph of this article is written: http://www.politico.eu/article/french-socialists-looking-for-best-possible-loser-hollande-2017-presidential-election-successor/, it sounds like his political career commited suicide or something. Plus the massive unpopularity mentioned.

edit: actual linkage.

[Helgoland]

Yeah, but still it's more complicated: It seems this is already used in Turkey as justification for even more suppression of free speech.

Well yeah, but that would've happened either way. So: Fuck Erdogan, but fuck Böhmermann too. The only difference is you should use some lube with Böhmermann.

[Shadowlord]

So let me ask a question, and it's going to sound either dumb or like trolling, but it's not.

... Is his name pronounced "Bomberman?" If not, what's the correct way?

[smjjames]

So let me ask a question, and it's going to sound either dumb or like trolling, but it's not.

... Is his name pronounced "Bomberman?" If not, what's the correct way?

I THINK it may be more like Boer mann.

Not sure how I'm supposed to pronounce the umlaut O though.

[TheDarkStar]

So let me ask a question, and it's going to sound either dumb or like trolling, but it's not.

... Is his name pronounced "Bomberman?" If not, what's the correct way?

I THINK it may be more like Boer mann.

Not sure how I'm supposed to pronounce the umlaut O though.

The way I learned to say "ö" was to round my mouth like I was saying a long "o" but put my tongue where I would put it when saying a long "e". However, the pronunciation can vary in some dialects of German - in some places, it sounds much more like a long "a".

As for the name, it's probably either BOEM-mer mahn or BOEM-ber mahn.

[Shadowlord]

Well, to be clear, the second b was silent in my mind, as it is when pronouncing "bomberman." I could assume that somewhere it isn't silent, but I don't know.

[Antsan]

Apparently Merkel has decided to allow Böhmermann's case to be reviewed by the German courts. SPD, Greens, and LINKE are verbally running amok. The SZ has a collection of reactions. I especially like the last one:

The government has decided to leave the verdict to German courts. I find myself unable to be upset with that.

Yeah, but still it's more complicated: It seems this is already used in Turkey as justification for even more suppression of free speech.

Once again, everything's just fucked up.

So, Turkey is using 'not getting their way' as justification?

Why "not getting their way"?

Well, to be clear, the second b was silent in my mind, as it is when pronouncing "bomberman." I could assume that somewhere it isn't silent, but I don't know.

Second b?

Here's how it is said in his intro:
https://youtu.be/7s8-zaXhREs?t=2m56s

Yeah, but still it's more complicated: It seems this is already used in Turkey as justification for even more suppression of free speech.

Well yeah, but that would've happened either way. So: Fuck Erdogan, but fuck Böhmermann too. The only difference is you should use some lube with Böhmermann.

We had to spend years listening to I-forgot-his-name-shitmouth-Modern-Talking. He was way worse and insulted people without any reason or deeper meaning at all (even the Schmähgedicht was way above his level). I don't see why we now apply higher standards to Böhmermann only because he chooses to make fun of politicians instead of mislead teens.

[martinuzz]

The worst thing about the poem is that it insults homosexuals by comparing them to Erdogan.

[Shadowlord]

Sorry, that last post was unclear due to tiredness. (I meant the second b in bomberman, and then went on to say "as it is in bomberman" which made no sense :V)

Aha. In that video it sounds like "Boomerman" to my ears.

[Helgoland]

We had to spend years listening to I-forgot-his-name-shitmouth-Modern-Talking. He was way worse and insulted people without any reason or deeper meaning at all (even the Schmähgedicht was way above his level). I don't see why we now apply higher standards to Böhmermann only because he chooses to make fun of politicians instead of mislead teens.

My parents are good intellectuals, I grew up without a TV

But seriously, that guy was just entertainment for the proles - that's why we could just politely ignore him like a small piece of dog shit stuck to someone's shoe. We can't do that with Böhmermann because he's political - he's taking part in the public discourse, and the public discourse is something we ought to keep in a good state. Someone who speaks politically needs to be held to a higher standard.

Dieter Bohlen! That was the critter's name!

[Morrigi]

Yet more tolerance and progressiveness in France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8l-y0rsJwQ

[smjjames]

Yet more tolerance and progressiveness in France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8l-y0rsJwQ

Any idea what they were fighting over?

[wobbly]

Curious too. Considering the amount of sarcasm - "tolerance & progressiveness...", there's a complete lack of context to the post. Destructive yes, but in terms of violence they're doing a pretty poor job with the tools they're using 

[Sheb]

The description of the video says that nationalist vigilantes attackes a makeshift refugee camp.