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[hector13]

Why haven't you stopped him earlie?

Been busy today, was using my phone earlier and I don't particularly like trying to trim quotes (I do that so flabsy doesn't have to trawl through either the 80 roles he created or the player list to find me and my abilities) so... I did it later than I really wanted. I'm full of sushi though, so if you have a problem with that, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

What ho. I have been slain.
Somebody bring me back.

Only if you give me back my lungs.

I am a happily paranoid girl :v
And I currently lack the efficiency of wording to ask a query, so here it is blunt and inefficient.
Are you a bloody Organ Harvester-type?

My role was posted earlier, when I died. Can't remember if it included the death flavour I was PM'd (PPE: no it didn't) but I was told I woke up without lungs, and I thought FoU might have done it seeing as I always seem to think he sees me as a threat. /narcissus

[4maskwolf]

So... what are the grey ones in parentheses, flabsy?

Going out on a limb here, I'd say they Ragshake's ability allows him to place a vote on everyone, but that vote doesn't take affect unless that person already has another vote on them.  Notice how the two people where Ragshake's vote is not greyed out are TDS and TolyK, who are the only two players with other votes on them.

I wonder...
Don't call me Webadict.
4mask (woo, my rare blue 'votes' shine)
Why're you adding to speculation onto an NPC? What do you think about the NPCs present that I believe you have detailed in mention earlier and what is your current goal as of today: Figuring out the NPCs, or Figuring out the players?

Because it costs me nothing to state what I had assumed when I read the votecount?  Am I not allowed to take any amount of time away from reading the players?  Plus, these styles of games aren't won by finding the scum per-se, in my experience, so the day phase becomes less important.  And yes, I did mention what the NPC's alignments are: that doesn't mean I can't comment on what I think of their role powers.

Geez Wuba.

[Deus Asmoth]

Notquitethere has died. He was Mafia
Mandatory Shakeragian Shenanigans
(Auto) You cannot win while...: If any team or player would win, the first person who died who's living would prevent that victory is resurected. They retain their access to the dead-chat.
(Auto) ...this role is in play: This role functions even if it's owner is dead.

...Yes. Either my reading comprehension is broken, or I can't read this right to connect it to:

Where did NQT say he had a Resurrection ability?

That doesn't read as a resurrection ability to me. (especially because the bit there is confusing wording <_>).
Or it's apostrophes in the way?

Essentially, the ability resurrects a person that is dead who would prevent the victory of a faction if they are alive. So if the town is about to win, NQT will be resurrected as he's the first dead mafia.

[TolyK]

Well, that's a lot to happen in one night.
If I was actually shot, then I have no idea why I'm alive - I really should be dead by now. I have an auto that protects me, but it shouldn't be working by now.

[Tiruin]

Well, that's a lot to happen in one night.
If I was actually shot, then I have no idea why I'm alive - I really should be dead by now. I have an auto that protects me, but it shouldn't be working by now.

I did that to get your alignment-flip >_> (I mean, the people whose roles DO control the flips are back and revivified). [And rather 'your', but more 'people who are leading being voted' :V)
Also why are you being so blatant -.- It's not something I'm arguing or going against, but...it's messy with my notes, fluctuating you between scum and town :v
Just like every other game. Bluh.

...Maybe this is a bastard mod with revivers once again. In which I am reminded of this nice feat here but am reluctant to link it (because I messed up in that game :V).

...
...
Flabort: Where is FallacyOfUrist's Roleflip? I flopped to the OP and flopped back into the game in order to write this next paragraph which went "Well we're back to square 1, sans NQT and *checks OP* FallacyOfUrist; we know a bit more about people's ROLEs and ABILITIES but a ton less on scumhunting--and the goings of people now are revolving around abilities and who did wut and "oh you prevent me from winning? Have a vote good sir." which gets answered by "Quite. I shall continue in vague." rather than 'scumhunting'" <_>

Essentially, the ability resurrects a person that is dead who would prevent the victory of a faction if they are alive. So if the town is about to win, NQT will be resurrected as he's the first dead mafia.

...So the only way to win is to have a role which wipes either Autos, or wipes abilities.

Maaaaaan is this feeling like another round of 'Mafia/Town (shouldn't really fight) VERSUS Cult [or whatever]'.
It's like that one game...TolyK and Urist Imiknorris. I remember that one but am forgetting which one <_<
Metaknowledge, hooooo~


I'm tired guys. Thanks for keeping up with my silliness interspaced with my content. I also miss Toaster.

[TolyK]

Hector:

Ragshake has post editing powers, I'm reasonably sure.

I also don't really want to be lynching Ragshake, for (hopefully obvious) selfish reasons. Perhaps we can lynch Tumbleweed instead? Or maybe we need to kill them both at the same time to get rid of them...

Anyway, I'll stop Raggy shaking things up for the rest of the day.

So, uh. Why didn't you stop him earlier, and why do you refer to lynching Tumblewee even though we know he revives? That's bad, based on what everyone's telling me about my vote on TDS. 


Tiruin:

THIS is important because it made me mess up in D1! I was the one who Solid Snake'd TDS >_> (I misread my ability and thought it 'adds a vote' instead of what happened back there).
Since I'm claiming it and someone sent in that role anyway, it's continued below.

Alright, so here're some claims I've to forward--I've that Solid Snake role which I used D1/N2. I got blocked N2 because somebody threw a crowbar at me :V and stuck me in the closet (har har, I'm in the closet. AGAIN[/OOC] ;V)

Wait, so you have Solid Snake vote manipulation thingie. Then blocked N2, when trying to use a different aspect of the role (as stated below, tracking me). Correct?

On my reads list because raisins, everyone is nominally gray. TolyK is of significant mention because I thought he was town; I used a TRACK on him yesternight but then crowbar happened. Hilariously, I misread that one TOO >_> [In which it reads my TARGET is notified of everyone visiting them, including MEE. Point was, at that time in my character-state, I felt he was town-ish.]

I wish that would've gone through, actually; that way I would know who is a blocking sonovabitch.

> Stuff's goin' down because I really want to ensure what TolyK will be by killing his face. There's somewhat of a reviver anyway (notme) so eh. And that reviver seems to be playing the middleman by resurrecting everyone-not-mafia. TolyK, I'd like you to tell us all why you're contacting the Mafia and why you're being very open about it...when context provides that you're pretty much speaking about everything-but-nope. <_< {I may be personally biased because of this attitude}, but dude, I really think you've an ulterior motive. The Mafia is 2+ people! [Presuming mostly a "3"]; it's half of the phone-line-conversation you're doing there. Why did you claim out firsthand that you've a 'power to chat with them' and then leave it hanging there? [as far as skim goes, you didn't expound it--I asked a question about it before]

So, you want to know what's going on by trying to kill me. That seems reasonable.  But your kill failed, so huh.
The reason I'm not telling everything is mostly trust: if I tell everything that's going on in there, some info that would be useful would not be given, most likely. Plus, it's not like you can silence me - I can still talk to people in quicktopics even when dead.

> My N1 action KILLED THE TUMBLEWEED for some reason, even if it was NOT a kill-action. [It was a one-shot bloody investigate aimed NOT at the tumbleweed >_>]

Who were you trying to investigate?

Wait, wat. People are all suddenly voting an NPC? Please recall votes and put them on a person--I have already sent in a PM to Flabort that is the equivalent of pressing the Big Red Nuclear Launch Button.

Spoiler: Which as far as I know, can't be redacted -.- (click to show/hide)

Sorry for the silliness. This is my way of coping with stress of RL and busyness. And not intentionally as a smokescreen, post restriction, or whatever.

Event!
TolyK is suddenly shot. Nobody saw the attacker, but luckily TolyK just fainted and fell over. (Ability to vote lost, ability for actions (still) gone).

...So is there a role that blocks roleflips or is someone protecting TolyK. :v
Because I'm bloody sure that's what's happening now.

Tiruin, that didn't feel very nuke-y

I know right? :V
But what the fish. It seems like NPCs are not considered players I guess. Given the wording of the ability I just used.

So, you tried to nuke the NPC's too? Like a multi-kill or something?
I'm still alive, if anything.

Maaaaaan is this feeling like another round of 'Mafia/Town (shouldn't really fight) VERSUS Cult [or whatever]'.
It's like that one game...TolyK and Urist Imiknorris. I remember that one but am forgetting which one <_<
Metaknowledge, hooooo~

UI and I won BYOCards, where we were mafia.
I think you mean Magic Mafia, where Toaster and I were town, but then he was converted to the Mafia by Vector and we decided to win with the mafia? (AND I was town poisoner, which you wouldn't believe ). Good times.

Well, that's a lot to happen in one night.
If I was actually shot, then I have no idea why I'm alive - I really should be dead by now. I have an auto that protects me, but it shouldn't be working by now.

I did that to get your alignment-flip >_> (I mean, the people whose roles DO control the flips are back and revivified). [And rather 'your', but more 'people who are leading being voted' :V)
Also why are you being so blatant -.- It's not something I'm arguing or going against, but...it's messy with my notes, fluctuating you between scum and town :v
Just like every other game. Bluh.

<3
I'm not being blatant, though, unless you mean explicit in saying a lot?

Essentially, the ability resurrects a person that is dead who would prevent the victory of a faction if they are alive. So if the town is about to win, NQT will be resurrected as he's the first dead mafia.

...So the only way to win is to have a role which wipes either Autos, or wipes abilities.

Or have everyone win? :3

[Tiruin]

Wait, so you have Solid Snake vote manipulation thingie. Then blocked N2, when trying to use a different aspect of the role (as stated below, tracking me). Correct?

Wat o_o That's not a vote manipulation role. It's a vote-vote-ing role.
The second aspect is me sending to the other person a track list of everyone visiting them. Re-re-re-re-re-reading it tells me that it's as if you get the info on being tracked (and I don't, which I'm ok about in a good re-read of the thread and knowing TolyK more). [This also pertains to removing infractions anyway since it's a kill! But I've no idea anymore since you're fainted.]

And yes I got blocked and shoved back in the closet. Pun intended. >_> *COUGH*

I wish that would've gone through, actually; that way I would know who is a blocking sonovabitch.

Roleblocks before tracks (I'm assuming it's Track anyway :v)

So, you want to know what's going on by trying to kill me. That seems reasonable.  But your kill failed, so huh.
The reason I'm not telling everything is mostly trust: if I tell everything that's going on in there, some info that would be useful would not be given, most likely. Plus, it's not like you can silence me - I can still talk to people in quicktopics even when dead.

Uhh...no.
I know what's going on by trying to kill you == I'm killing you to check alignment :v I thought that would work anyway given the state of affairs and looking at what happened in the past days, this also included tossing the mental dice that 'hey, maybe TolyK is non-scum; hey, maybe the reviver is non-scum'. Stuff like that.
Also I think Flabort needs to be the one telling us this instead of your assurance.
Flabort: What're the rules regarding dead people? What're the rules regarding dead people and quicktopics? Will the bastard-y nature of this game ever change those rules? Is there a deadchat?

Who were you trying to investigate?

If questions like these were issued to everyone else, we'd have a more prolific of a game here!
I tried to ~!investigate FallacyOfUrist [N1]. This however got somehow redirected to a tumbleweed. Or I say 'redirected', but when I visited him, I saw the tumbleweed instead. Then it somehow died despite my action having no flavor or description of any lethality.

So, you tried to nuke the NPC's too? Like a multi-kill or something?
I'm still alive, if anything.

I so wish that were true >_> But seriously: THESE NPCs are ATTACHED TO PEOPLE's ROLES.

Usually when you around, that means you've a nice schemata in place.
Hello TolyK's planning mind. Howdy today?

UI and I won BYOCards, where we were mafia.
I think you mean Magic Mafia, where Toaster and I were town, but then he was converted to the Mafia by Vector and we decided to win with the mafia? (AND I was town poisoner, which you wouldn't believe ). Good times.

Oh o_O I was remembering the first one here. Please linkie because I'm too tired tot hink now.
Because exams.
And IRL closet.

Tiruin activates uselessly OOC vague stuff that doesn't even matter in game- stuff.
Woo >_>

<3
I'm not being blatant, though, unless you mean explicit in saying a lot?

...No? If your content was significant of mention, you'd be pretty much being critical and coherent. The TolyK I'm poking right now is like a harlequin--dancing with cheery 'ness because of ulterior motives indistinct to my eyes.

And the most hilarious bit is that I don't even see you firmly as scum with that attitude. -.- (hilarious as an intensifier to "What is TolyK even doing, playing lone wolf? >_>", not as a literal term)

[TolyK]

<3
I'm not being blatant, though, unless you mean explicit in saying a lot?

...No? If your content was significant of mention, you'd be pretty much being critical and coherent. The TolyK I'm poking right now is like a harlequin--dancing with cheery 'ness because of ulterior motives indistinct to my eyes.

And the most hilarious bit is that I don't even see you firmly as scum with that attitude. -.- (hilarious as an intensifier to "What is TolyK even doing, playing lone wolf? >_>", not as a literal term)

Inb4 it turns out I'm an actually unkillable SK who wins by default. (<<< THIS IS A JOKE)

Wait, so you have Solid Snake vote manipulation thingie. Then blocked N2, when trying to use a different aspect of the role (as stated below, tracking me). Correct?

Wat o_o That's not a vote manipulation role. It's a vote-vote-ing role.
The second aspect is me sending to the other person a track list of everyone visiting them. Re-re-re-re-re-reading it tells me that it's as if you get the info on being tracked (and I don't, which I'm ok about in a good re-read of the thread and knowing TolyK more). [This also pertains to removing infractions anyway since it's a kill! But I've no idea anymore since you're fainted.]

And yes I got blocked and shoved back in the closet. Pun intended. >_> *COUGH*

I wish that would've gone through, actually; that way I would know who is a blocking sonovabitch.

Roleblocks before tracks (I'm assuming it's Track anyway :v)

So, you want to know what's going on by trying to kill me. That seems reasonable.  But your kill failed, so huh.
The reason I'm not telling everything is mostly trust: if I tell everything that's going on in there, some info that would be useful would not be given, most likely. Plus, it's not like you can silence me - I can still talk to people in quicktopics even when dead.

Uhh...no.
I know what's going on by trying to kill you == I'm killing you to check alignment :v I thought that would work anyway given the state of affairs and looking at what happened in the past days, this also included tossing the mental dice that 'hey, maybe TolyK is non-scum; hey, maybe the reviver is non-scum'. Stuff like that.
Also I think Flabort needs to be the one telling us this instead of your assurance.
Flabort: What're the rules regarding dead people? What're the rules regarding dead people and quicktopics? Will the bastard-y nature of this game ever change those rules? Is there a deadchat?

Well, alright, but others that can confirm that dead men can tell tales are TDS and DA. Take of that what you will.

Who were you trying to investigate?

If questions like these were issued to everyone else, we'd have a more prolific of a game here!
I tried to ~!investigate FallacyOfUrist [N1]. This however got somehow redirected to a tumbleweed. Or I say 'redirected', but when I visited him, I saw the tumbleweed instead. Then it somehow died despite my action having no flavor or description of any lethality.

Possibly from the fact that actions had a chance of turning into kills, based on the rules mentioned D1?

Usually when you around, that means you've a nice schemata in place.
Hello TolyK's planning mind. Howdy today?

Well, the biggest problem is that I can't action for at least 2 phases, possibly 3 or 4, so I'm stuck here chatting and maybe voting and apparently getting revived a bunch. I've also started working on a spreadsheet to figure out who did what and what happened, but I've got uni stuff that's taking some time as well.

UI and I won BYOCards, where we were mafia.
I think you mean Magic Mafia, where Toaster and I were town, but then he was converted to the Mafia by Vector and we decided to win with the mafia? (AND I was town poisoner, which you wouldn't believe ). Good times.

Oh o_O I was remembering the first one here. Please linkie because I'm too tired tot hink now.

BYOC here.


Everyone: Who has the role with "Doctors" in the name, eh?

[4maskwolf]

Everyone: Who has the role with "Doctors" in the name, eh?

Two points here: 1. Why are your role fishing, and 2. Just because you may have sent in a role with "doctors" somewhere in the name doesn't necessarily mean that nobody else did, which would result in (potentially) multiple people answering back in the affirmative.

[TolyK]

Fishing because it's potentially the last bit of info I can get in my current position. It's potentially the last role I sent in whose (which?) location I don't know.

[Tiruin]

<3
I'm not being blatant, though, unless you mean explicit in saying a lot?

...No? If your content was significant of mention, you'd be pretty much being critical and coherent. The TolyK I'm poking right now is like a harlequin--dancing with cheery 'ness because of ulterior motives indistinct to my eyes.

And the most hilarious bit is that I don't even see you firmly as scum with that attitude. -.- (hilarious as an intensifier to "What is TolyK even doing, playing lone wolf? >_>", not as a literal term)

Inb4 it turns out I'm an actually unkillable SK who wins by default. (<<< THIS IS A JOKE)

Inb4 everyone is mafias :V I'm mafia. You're mafia. We're all mafiaaaaa (and scum while at it).

So...what's the purpose of added content of that 'winconeverything' plan again? You're able to chat with NQT (and at a good timezone too--he's British!). Are you willing to divulge what's being said over there in this thread? :v

Did you add the last parts in capitalization because of that truth-post-checker?
Y'know whoever that is could work very well with the Mephansteras-editor to go '[This post] I'm {wincon alignment}!' and then 'poof', instant inspect or else you get an infraction if you edit it back.

Well, alright, but others that can confirm that dead men can tell tales are TDS and DA. Take of that what you will.

TDS didn't 'die' or at least it wasn't mentioned that he did, and DA died but couldn't talk because it was knight :v
Please come out with information there other than a shrug and acknowledgement?

Possibly from the fact that actions had a chance of turning into kills, based on the rules mentioned D1?

...And my action is the only one that killed? :V
Unless anyone wants to claim what they did to Hector?

Good point though.

Well, the biggest problem is that I can't action for at least 2 phases, possibly 3 or 4, so I'm stuck here chatting and maybe voting and apparently getting revived a bunch. I've also started working on a spreadsheet to figure out who did what and what happened, but I've got uni stuff that's taking some time as well.

I could've killed you and wiped it out! Could've!
*cue nobody claiming protect because of raisins* or whatever.
But in out of context discussion, that save is a pretty cool ability :O
Just that it's been used in the worst context ever <_<

*Uni-stuff highfive*

Everyone: Who has the role with "Doctors" in the name, eh?

See. Blatant. :V Also Specific.
I'm assuming this is something pertinent (or the other hand will mean 'asking questions as fluff?'), so...why the specific deal here?
Is it connected with your plan of everyonewins? [I'm wondering who'd stand in front of that plan even happening--so I'm also wondering why you're not talking about that plan anyway? Nothing hinders you other than trust, and trust isn't something to just click when both parties be vague (though you already have NQT so myeh?)]

Next: What does that matter unless it's connected to something you know? o_O (ie Something mentioned in your list of roles--as pre-game sending can't tell).

...But that leads to a good idea. Anyone think mentioning how many roles you've sent in or what role names you've sent in is a good idea to claim at this time? We're technically on D2, preceeding any roles with a timer (see: That D2 link there for DA, who will then be able to KEEL PEOPLE PER DAAAY tomorrow)

Oh hey ninja'd!
He mentioned it specifically as 'Doctors' There can be no alternative other than someone ELSE submitting a role with Doctors.

PPEx2:

Fishing because it's potentially the last bit of info I can get in my current position. It's potentially the last role I sent in whose (which?) location I don't know.

How does this make sense in this context? The dead can speak given how many posts you've done.

[4maskwolf]

Anyone think mentioning how many roles you've sent in or what role names you've sent in is a good idea to claim at this time?

I sent in eight, and know where four of those roles are.  The other four are currently unaccounted for in any role flip or my own role PM.

[Deus Asmoth]

TMS: Ragshake's already used his action for this phase by putting the Ragvote duplicate thingie down.

flabort, can modkilled players be resurrected? Also, do the roles of modkilled players that would normally function after death continue functioning after being modkilled?

[Shakerag]

Tiruin:

> My N1 action KILLED THE TUMBLEWEED for some reason, even if it was NOT a kill-action. [It was a one-shot bloody investigate aimed NOT at the tumbleweed >_>]

I can confirm that Tiruin visited the tumbleweed N1 as well.  So did hector13, for what it's worth.

Also, what happened with your pressing the big red nuke button?

[hector13]

So might have been Hector doing the kill? Does he have one? Or was it the DF mechanics thing?

I like how you completely ignore that it could've been Tiruin or Shakerag there, dude. Good play. Also that all actions have a chance of turning into a kill, regardless of what it is. Also, also, why aren't you paying attention to things? All my abilities were posted earlier.

You could answer your own questions by looking

Tolyk

Hector:

Ragshake has post editing powers, I'm reasonably sure.

I also don't really want to be lynching Ragshake, for (hopefully obvious) selfish reasons. Perhaps we can lynch Tumbleweed instead? Or maybe we need to kill them both at the same time to get rid of them...

Anyway, I'll stop Raggy shaking things up for the rest of the day.

So, uh. Why didn't you stop him earlier, and why do you refer to lynching Tumblewee even though we know he revives? That's bad, based on what everyone's telling me about my vote on TDS. 

I was busy, and didn't think Raggy would be quite so mean turns out I didn't send my PM though. That's what I get for using my phone.

I wanted to lynch Tumbleweed 'cause I thought they and Ragshake were connected somehow, but I may have been mistaken in that thought. Tiruin said they used an investigative ability to target someone else that targeted Tumbleweed - confirmed by Shakerag - and that's what happened for me too... so maybe it's the investigation abilities that's buggered? I think tracking and watching are investigative, so it would also explain why Shakerag used that on an NPC, too.

Though she did also imply her's was lethal:

[It was a one-shot bloody investigate aimed NOT at the tumbleweed >_>]

Though also later that it didn't:

If questions like these were issued to everyone else, we'd have a more prolific of a game here!
I tried to ~!investigate FallacyOfUrist [N1]. This however got somehow redirected to a tumbleweed. Or I say 'redirected', but when I visited him, I saw the tumbleweed instead. Then it somehow died despite my action having no flavor or description of any lethality.

So maybe I'm just reading too much into wording, though a confirmation from Tiruin might be nice.

Nonsense

Hector?

Scottish translation "'mon oot ya wee shite, I want tae chib ye wi' mah big spear, then drag ye roond yer hoose oan the back o' ((pronounced "eh")) mah chariot."