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No (flat 0.3E/T/u, break-even times 3T, 5T, 8T, 13T, 19T) (pro: Balances T4-based agents, contra: Takes forever to break even)

6 (33.3%)

Yes (1/3 creation cost/T, break-even times 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T) (pro: 3x break-even ratio preserved, contra: Low-tier races useless)

2 (11.1%)

Yes ((tier + 1)/3, break-even times 3T, 6T, 8T, 10T, 12T) (pro: Maximizes above two's strengths? contra: Maximizes above two's weaknesses?)

9 (50%)

Yes (other scale posted in thread)

1 (5.6%)

Yes (another scale posted in thread)

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 18

[Stirk]

On the other hand, what happens when multiple afterlives all compete for non-worshippers?

At this point it isn't even clear if neutral souls go into anywhere in particular, even if the afterlives say they do. Its possible that only the souls that worship Gods go to their afterlives, making the fight pointless. Might need some IC research for that though.

Anyway, I kinda expected Demonic Spoons "Your worshipers all go to my afterlife if they be dragons!" to gain more attention, especially when he isn't the only Dragon based God.

[hector13]

On the other hand, what happens when multiple afterlives all compete for non-worshippers?

I can't help but think of a supernatural travel agent trying to sell a newly deceased lost soul on the merits of the various afterlives.

"There tend to be a lot of your kind that end up in this afterlife, so it would be like a home away from home. If you're looking for something a bit more exotic, you can be eaten and digested by a deity in this afterlife, or even brutally tortured by spiders and reincarnated as a mindless slave in this one!

... Oh, you're not quite ready to decide yet? Okay, take these brochures through to the waiting area and notify my associate if you have questions. NEXT!"

[crazyabe]

On the other hand, what happens when multiple afterlives all compete for non-worshippers?

I can't help but think of a supernatural travel agent trying to sell a newly deceased lost soul on the merits of the various afterlives.

"There tend to be a lot of your kind that end up in this afterlife, so it would be like a home away from home. If you're looking for something a bit more exotic, you can be eaten and digested by a deity in this afterlife, or even brutally tortured by spiders and reincarnated as a mindless slave in this one!

... Oh, you're not quite ready to decide yet? Okay, take these brochures through to the waiting area and notify my associate if you have questions. NEXT!"

Hmm... I think I may have to do that..

[Demonic Spoon]

Anyway, I kinda expected Demonic Spoons "Your worshipers all go to my afterlife if they be dragons!" to gain more attention, especially when he isn't the only Dragon based God.

Vir(the other dragon god) was rumbling but fortunately got distracted by cobwebs. Also my afterlife isn't innately hostile as such to souls inside, unlike the metaphysical stomach and webs, the Bloodpits are explicitly voluntary and you can easily avoid the major dangers of the plane.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Respect your elders!

[Demonic Spoon]

Respect your elders!

Respect is earned 

[AbstractTraitorHero]

DAMN HE'S RIGHT....um....i can turn into a dragon that's cool right?

[Stirk]

Anyway, I kinda expected Demonic Spoons "Your worshipers all go to my afterlife if they be dragons!" to gain more attention, especially when he isn't the only Dragon based God.

Vir(the other dragon god) was rumbling but fortunately got distracted by cobwebs. Also my afterlife isn't innately hostile as such to souls inside, unlike the metaphysical stomach and webs, the Bloodpits are explicitly voluntary and you can easily avoid the major dangers of the plane.

Its less what happens to the Souls, and more the fact you are stealing them in the first place  . You (and the other lizard guys) are likely going to make dragons and dragon-like races. As the mechanics go, many will Worship other Gods, yet you are claiming their Souls. Basically stealing from all gods blatantly :p.

It is a pretty big investment into something that can be wiped out with 3A anyway.

[Rolepgeek]

If you put essence into your afterlife, I have doubts it'll be so easy to tear down.

And of course, it's easier for them to build it back up if it's purely AP then it is to tear it down.

And I don't know if 'claiming all the souls of the race I made regardless of god' is stealing from other gods. They didn't make the race; when did we decide that if a mortal worships you then you've 'earned' them?

[hector13]

If you put essence into your afterlife, I have doubts it'll be so easy to tear down.

And of course, it's easier for them to build it back up if it's purely AP then it is to tear it down.

And I don't know if 'claiming all the souls of the race I made regardless of god' is stealing from other gods. They didn't make the race; when did we decide that if a mortal worships you then you've 'earned' them?

'cause their soul goes to your afterlife. That's kind of owning them since other gods won't have access to your arterlife unless you let them or they force their way in.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Yeah you can't really claim dominion over a species.

[Stirk]

If you put essence into your afterlife, I have doubts it'll be so easy to tear down.

And of course, it's easier for them to build it back up if it's purely AP then it is to tear it down.

And I don't know if 'claiming all the souls of the race I made regardless of god' is stealing from other gods. They didn't make the race; when did we decide that if a mortal worships you then you've 'earned' them?

Maybe, but that would probably be something to check before making the investment.

Its stealing follower's souls, including those made by any other God who feels like making a dragon (like say the other god of dragons...). Presumably most people don't like getting their follower's souls stolen by foreign Gods, and those follower's ancestors being created by the God doesn't really change that fact.

[Ardent Debater]

Yeah you can't really claim dominion over a species.

What if you made them in your image and they didn't care about other Deities? I really don't see what the big deal about The Stomach of Kuthulknoes is, at least it's original. Also, darkwarlok13, what exactly do you mean by 'Mindless Slaves' I'm kind of curious.

If you put essence into your afterlife, I have doubts it'll be so easy to tear down.

And of course, it's easier for them to build it back up if it's purely AP then it is to tear it down.

And I don't know if 'claiming all the souls of the race I made regardless of god' is stealing from other gods. They didn't make the race; when did we decide that if a mortal worships you then you've 'earned' them?

Maybe, but that would probably be something to check before making the investment.

Its stealing follower's souls, including those made by any other God who feels like making a dragon (like say the other god of dragons...). Presumably most people don't like getting their follower's souls stolen by foreign Gods, and those follower's ancestors being created by the God doesn't really change that fact.

I think it should be up to the Mortal myself.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

The Great God of dragons!

Yeah you can't really claim dominion over a species.

What if you made them in your image and they didn't care about other Deities? I really don't see what the big deal about The Stomach of Kuthulknoes is, at least it's original. Also, darkwarlok13, what exactly do you mean by 'Mindless Slaves' I'm kind of curious.

If you put essence into your afterlife, I have doubts it'll be so easy to tear down.

And of course, it's easier for them to build it back up if it's purely AP then it is to tear it down.

And I don't know if 'claiming all the souls of the race I made regardless of god' is stealing from other gods. They didn't make the race; when did we decide that if a mortal worships you then you've 'earned' them?

Maybe, but that would probably be something to check before making the investment.

Its stealing follower's souls, including those made by any other God who feels like making a dragon (like say the other god of dragons...). Presumably most people don't like getting their follower's souls stolen by foreign Gods, and those follower's ancestors being created by the God doesn't really change that fact.

I think it should be up to the Mortal myself.

I doubt you would get worship from them.

[darkwarlock3]

Yeah you can't really claim dominion over a species.

What if you made them in your image and they didn't care about other Deities? I really don't see what the big deal about The Stomach of Kuthulknoes is, at least it's original. Also, darkwarlock3, what exactly do you mean by 'Mindless Slaves' I'm kind of curious.

I mean that I am planing on creating a slave race that is basically mindless, and having the souls that get trapped in my web converted into them... eventually.