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No (flat 0.3E/T/u, break-even times 3T, 5T, 8T, 13T, 19T) (pro: Balances T4-based agents, contra: Takes forever to break even)

6 (33.3%)

Yes (1/3 creation cost/T, break-even times 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T) (pro: 3x break-even ratio preserved, contra: Low-tier races useless)

2 (11.1%)

Yes ((tier + 1)/3, break-even times 3T, 6T, 8T, 10T, 12T) (pro: Maximizes above two's strengths? contra: Maximizes above two's weaknesses?)

9 (50%)

Yes (other scale posted in thread)

1 (5.6%)

Yes (another scale posted in thread)

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 18

[Andres]

Nonsense rituals to worship you then, that other races think are stupid

Different cultures, different ways of showing reverence to one's god(s). I don't see a problem with that.

So if they start sacrificing millions of creatures/people in your name to keep the worlds turning and the sun shining, somewhat like the aztecs, is fine with you?

Eid wouldn't mind animal sacrifices but he would mind the sacrifice of things that have souls.

[hector13]

Smearing themselves with poop and provoking large carnivorous animals.

[~Neri]

Pssst. Animals have souls.

[Stirk]

Look, I'm just going by the description in the book that you defended so heavily. If it says I can pledge them to my religion as a hindrance, that's what I'm gonna do. If KJP looks at the hindrance and decides to make it a positive trait, fine, but until then there's no reason for me to exclude it.

I'm defending the book. You do really don't realize that this is a hindrance, which proved the point I was making there  .

I didn't give them that setup because of laziness, actually, but rather because I found it would be interesting if they would match how humans are in other games. It also means that Humans will end up being the "various skills" race and it would actually make sense if they managed to become dominant over Elves and Dwarves. It's not certain, but at least it can happen. The DF description was honestly a reference to humans being as generic as they are.

1. I know, I was joking.
2. It really is annoying that you are getting derivative with humans on top of everything else.

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but keep in mind that attacking someone IC for OOC reasons is against the rules.

Phonoi would be super-annoyed at you making these and would kill them all, which was serious. These things exist only to be your slaves, they have no Potential at all. Their only hope would be for Liberation, one way or another. At the very least you can't expect anyone else to care about them, they may have Potential as experience point fodder. Besides, do you even know who the Phonoi where?

I think the thing you're emphasizing refers to assigning hard numbers to the traits. Defining that Keen Sight+1 increases maximum visible range by 50 metres and Keen Sight +2 increases by 100 metres, for example. I price checked Fruitful-X so if the results come back differently, I can just go back to the sheets and alter it if it differs to KJP's judgement. The other "custom" traits are just variations of the ones in the book or the Tome*. The only difference is fluff. The one exception is Prideful which I will actually have to price check.

*Attractive downgraded to Slightly Attractive: Less bonus = less cost. Precedence: Arcane Background->Slightly Magical

That is very,very unlikely. Interpolation basically means "Getting new numbers based off old numbers", which is what you are doing. And which is unsupported. If you don't understand a word you can look it up you know.

[Andres]

Smearing themselves with poop and provoking large carnivorous animals.

No on both accounts. The former brings disease and the latter gets his worshipers killed.

Pssst. Animals have souls.

I thought KJP said that animals and plants didn't have souls in this game?

2. It really is annoying that you are getting derivative with humans on top of everything else.

Weren't you saying not long ago that derivation is ok like with your new Dwarves/Elves?

Phonoi would be super-annoyed at you making these and would kill them all, which was serious. These things exist only to be your slaves, they have no Potential at all. Their only hope would be for Liberation, one way or another. At the very least you can't expect anyone else to care about them, they may have Potential as experience point fodder. Besides, do you even know who the Phonoi where?

How coincidental that you create a god that just so happens to be willing to kill races that you dislike. But no, I don't know who the Phonoi were.

[Stirk]

I thought KJP said that animals and plants didn't have souls in this game?

No, he said they did but don't think about it too hard. As in he said the don't-think-about-it-too hard part too.

Weren't you saying not long ago that derivation is ok like with your new Dwarves/Elves?

I said it is OK as long as you put your fingerprint on it. What you are doing to Humans is actually somehow making them less original than before. Its like you're scrubbing the fingerprints off so nobody can trace it back to you before you throw it in a river and leg it.

How coincidental that you create a god that just so happens to be willing to kill races that you dislike. But no, I don't know who the Phonoi were.

Oh heavens, I should have brought out one of my Perfect Pacifist gods who doesn't never kill nothing. I have a reason to dislike them IC and OOC, is that hard to understand?

Also, my writing is totally downhill today. I think I need a nap :S.

[IcyTea31]

        Souls: Such a thorny recurring question! For now, they are, by GM fiat, present in all things designated as "agents" or "races" and even some unethical things designated as "magic items." This, of course, excludes typical flora and fauna until they get turned into one of the previously mentioned classes. Since it would be annoying to make an unbroken system for doing so (that would not immediately be poked and tried and stretched), they cannot be consumed for godly energy at the moment.

Emphases mine. Animals only have souls if they're races or agents.

[Rolepgeek]

Jeezus.

I didn't realize Phonoi was gonna be another semi-genocidal god. I should've guessed, really, but...he seemed so cheerful!

Oh well. Just means it'll be that much more...Fun.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

God damn is Vir seriously the only truky cheerfull god who dosent want murder but then again vir is almost a pacifist.

[hector13]

Well I just created a pacifist race

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Well I just created a pacifist race

<Clap>

[Stirk]

Jeezus.

I didn't realize Phonoi was gonna be another semi-genocidal god. I should've guessed, really, but...he seemed so cheerful!

Oh well. Just means it'll be that much more...Fun.

I'm just bluffing so Andres won't notice me steal his races.

Really though, I don't plan on committing too much genocide with him :p. Don't look too much into the name. Actual reason for it:

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"Wow! Ye Gods is back! This is so unexpected I didn't have a God prepared! Uh, I was thinking about doing one based on Nemesis. *brings up wikipedia page* Lets see, she is also named 'Adrasteia' which means something like "Inescapable". That would make a good name, but is hard to spell and too long. Look for one under six letters Stirk! Look, a nifty 'Personified concepts' thing under the picture! Algos? Sorrow and grief, not fun. Second down the list Amphilogiai might have a useful link or something. Oh look, a handy list! *Reads* Phonoi is easy enough to spell *click* sure, this name will work! Now I got to decide a sphere...."

And that is why you don't brainstorm at 5AM when you haven't slept all night.

Of course my playstyle seems to inevitably cause genocides anyway, and he really wouldn't stand for something like enslaving entire races, there *are* more effective ways to go about Liberating them which he would give at least a token attempt before murderkill starts...

Well I just created a pacifist race

...Certainly a bold move.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Fun fact vir Means:man; husband; hero; person of courage| honor| and nobility so yeah that says a lot.

[Rolepgeek]

But that's when my best ideas come out!

I once wrote an entire script for a forum game/plot in about in about an hour, at 1 in the morning. When I'm far too tired is when I'm most creative, don'tcha know.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

But that's when my best ideas come out!

I once wrote an entire script for a forum game/plot in about in about an hour, at 1 in the morning. When I'm far too tired is when I'm most creative, don'tcha know.

I wrote a novel for backstory for one of my characters on the forum.