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Author Topic: [MODDING] 0.43.x QUESTIONS THREAD  (Read 204912 times)

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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #435 on: January 20, 2016, 03:40:26 pm »

They have no hands to grasp with.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #436 on: January 20, 2016, 04:25:36 pm »

If you want them to actually use a marsupial pouch for storage... I dunno, you can make a body part called a "pouch" on the lower body that can grasp, they'll probably do silly things like wield their weapons with it. But you can give them either grasping mouths or forepaws. QUADRUPED_NECK_FRONT_GRASP would work for an alternate body plan; it's already in the raws.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #437 on: January 21, 2016, 03:19:53 am »

My drow civilization seems to crash the game in worldgen.

It doesn't do this when I remove all of the noble positions, though. It seems like the civilization can't have any noble positions if it lives in dark fortresses?
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« Reply #438 on: January 21, 2016, 03:32:21 am »

My drow civilization seems to crash the game in worldgen.

It doesn't do this when I remove all of the noble positions, though. It seems like the civilization can't have any noble positions if it lives in dark fortresses?

Do a test where you just copy and paste a noble from another civ and see the result.

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« Reply #439 on: January 21, 2016, 03:41:13 am »

Alright, I just found out the civilization tolerates nobles just fine so long as they don't have the [CHAT_WORTHY] and [RESPONSIBILITY:LAW_MAKING] tags (except if it's the leader of the civilization)

Probably has something to do with the demons and whatnot who control dark fortress civs.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #440 on: January 21, 2016, 01:35:42 pm »

[CE_BODY_MAT_INTERACTION:MAT_TOKEN:BLOOD:START:0]

Is there any material besides blood, sweat or vomit that i can put here to make a creature give itself an interaction? instantly if possible.
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« Reply #441 on: January 21, 2016, 05:24:11 pm »

I've been playing around with the all-playable-races mod to make a goblin succession game. However, in spite of having the appropriate tags in my raws...
         
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[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
       
... my goblins won't butcher or make use of the bits of sapient kobolds, werebeasts or even their pet trolls (live trolls they can slaughter, but then cannot process the body parts). As far as I can tell this problem is new in 42.00+, hence asking the question in this thread.
         
Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
         
The mod is here.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #442 on: January 21, 2016, 05:30:03 pm »

Alright, I just found out the civilization tolerates nobles just fine so long as they don't have the [CHAT_WORTHY] and [RESPONSIBILITY:LAW_MAKING] tags (except if it's the leader of the civilization)

Probably has something to do with the demons and whatnot who control dark fortress civs.

Dark Forts have had that problem since .40.XX, I believe. It likely is tied to Demonic rulers.

[CE_BODY_MAT_INTERACTION:MAT_TOKEN:BLOOD:START:0]

Is there any material besides blood, sweat or vomit that i can put here to make a creature give itself an interaction? instantly if possible.

Body Mat Interactions are for consuming the specified material. It can't grant itself a syndrome/interaction this way, as far as I know.

       
... my goblins won't butcher or make use of the bits of sapient kobolds, werebeasts or even their pet trolls (live trolls they can slaughter, but then cannot process the body parts). As far as I can tell this problem is new in 42.00+, hence asking the question in this thread.

I've seen this pop up a few times recently. It might be a brand new bug, since people had it working fine a few versions ago.
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« Reply #443 on: January 21, 2016, 05:45:05 pm »

According to the wiki, the SUPERNATURAL tag "gives the creature knowledge of any secrets with SUPERNATURAL_LEARNING_POSSIBLE that match its spheres." Now, I tested this, modding humans to have both the SUPERNATURAL tag and SPHERE:DEATH. Despite this, they are not innate necromancers. What's going on?
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #444 on: January 21, 2016, 09:14:19 pm »

According to the wiki, the SUPERNATURAL tag "gives the creature knowledge of any secrets with SUPERNATURAL_LEARNING_POSSIBLE that match its spheres." Now, I tested this, modding humans to have both the SUPERNATURAL tag and SPHERE:DEATH. Despite this, they are not innate necromancers. What's going on?
It would not surprise me at all if making a race playable interfered with its SUPERNATURALness.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #445 on: January 22, 2016, 09:30:06 am »

is it possible to turn off petititions, or reduce their occurance? it's annoying.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #446 on: January 22, 2016, 09:49:47 am »



[CE_BODY_MAT_INTERACTION:MAT_TOKEN:BLOOD:START:0]

Is there any material besides blood, sweat or vomit that i can put here to make a creature give itself an interaction? instantly if possible.

Body Mat Interactions are for consuming the specified material. It can't grant itself a syndrome/interaction this way, as far as I know.
What if the blood has contact and injection syndrome tags? As far as i know it works in syndromes when done that way.
Anyway is there a way a creature can reliably give itself an interaction in any way that happens instantly and without any requirements like having to be in a fight etc?
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #447 on: January 22, 2016, 05:42:10 pm »

According to the wiki, the SUPERNATURAL tag "gives the creature knowledge of any secrets with SUPERNATURAL_LEARNING_POSSIBLE that match its spheres." Now, I tested this, modding humans to have both the SUPERNATURAL tag and SPHERE:DEATH. Despite this, they are not innate necromancers. What's going on?
It would not surprise me at all if making a race playable interfered with its SUPERNATURALness.
I just tried making a supernatural creature a domestic animal: still no dice trying to get them to raise the dead. If they have to be wild, its going to take a while to test.
I would just assume it's a bug, since the intended behavior is apparently to grant them access to appropriate interactions, which isn't happening.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.42.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #448 on: January 22, 2016, 05:43:32 pm »

Thinking on it, I don't think [SUPERNATURAL] actually grants them the secret, it just gives them knowledge of it. So the creature with [SUPERNATURAL] can teach the secret to anyone else.

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« Reply #449 on: January 22, 2016, 11:48:36 pm »

I've never seen that happen, either. Are you sure?
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