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[Funk]

I thought that the wheel was at set up so the ball would fall in to the paddles and then be rotated around raising the ball up to the breach.
A simple ratchet would then hold the paddles and ball in line with the barrel.

The empty side of the cast wheel would be used to turn it.

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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Revision
Victoria II Air Rifle - The Victoria II Air Rifle is a variant of the Victoria Air Rifle.  The gravity fed magazine is replaced with a wheel with paddles perpendicular to the firing chamber, where the gravity fed magazine deposited the rounds.  An access is granted on the right side to allow the wielder to rotate a shot from the below barrel fifteen round magazine into the firing position.  There is a ratchet is installed in order to prevent the wheel from going to far, which needs to be pressed down when switching to the next round, so that the wheel may move.  This innovation prevents the jamming seen in the original Victoria.  However, this does come with its own problems of having some of the air escape through it, reducing the effective firing range, and the pressure can sometimes cause the ratchet to become loose or the wheel to get stuck on it.  This type of jam is able to be cleared in under a second and the looseness of the ratchet can be fixed with some simple maintenance after every battle.  Finally, the air reservoir is replaced by a version to be screwed on an off, but have to be pressurized before use.  The effective range of the Victoria II is 50-100 meters. (Very Expensive)

Tech gained
Paddle and Ratchet [Expensive]

Just a short note, I forgot to put in the effective range on the original Victoria rifle.  It's 75-125 meters.  Anyway, if both rifles wind up being produced, the air reservoir tech will lose the complexity expense at twice the rate it would have beforehand (Would have been 2 turns, now only 1).

Begin Production Phase

[Sheb]

We didn't reduce expense at all?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

We didn't reduce expense at all?

Both rifles will drop 1 expense level each turn as they are produced enough to first drop the complexity cost of the Air Reservoir tech, followed by the tech that has their magazines work.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

reduced range makes it far less sexy. Victoria I outranges the second version... But it looks more serviceable by an average stupid grunt

focus production on Victoria II, while Victoria I will see some use in sharpshooter's hands.


Alternatively we may try to win artillery game and produce 6 pounders 

[Funk]

reduced range makes it far less sexy. Victoria I outranges the second version... But it looks more serviceable by an average stupid grunt

focus production on Victoria II, while Victoria I will see some use in sharpshooter's hands.

Alternatively we may try to win artillery game and produce 6 pounders 

+1 to the Victoria II

As for artillery, lets just build a bigger air gun and fire shells with pre lit fuzzes.

[Wolfhunter107]

Focus on the Victoria II

[Playergamer]

Focus on the Victoria II

+1.

We want to capitalize on the advantage this rifle will (hopefully) give us. We can give V2s to elite infantrymen, and have them spearhead an attack on the Monarchists to the south, bringing up the cannon and musketmen behind them. If they run into any major resistance, they hold their ground until the cannons arrive to pin the enemy down, and the musketmen arrive to be thrown into the grinder.

Also, for espionage, I think we should try to keep our own design safe. If the Brits, or, god forbid, the Monarchists manage to steal the Victoria, we'll be in a world of hurt.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I am strongly against using counter-espionage ever. It is passive waste of action. You get either no result or bad result. It is a losing proposition

[Playergamer]

No result is a good result, though. I am guessing, based on how revolutionary the Victoria is, that our design will give us a decisive advantage against the Monarchists. However, if either side steals our design, we'll be, well, screwed.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

In 3way game our main aim is to get stronger ourself not try prevent others from doing the same or weakening enemies.

if when other side will steal our design,  it is double-edged result, because the third side is hurt by this, too.

The best counter-intelligence may give us is knock out one of enemy spies, something that will benefit the third side, too. Most likely result is - nothing, followed by nothing and still losing the tech

I see only two good uses for spying action (unless one of sides will become much stronger than our other enemy

Steal technologies for ourself (benefit us and only us)
Use intrique to sway independent factions to our side (same)

And my vote to espionage in advance

Inflitrate shipyards of loyalists. Try to steal whatever new naval design\revision they created. Ideally by capturing a ship and movint it in our port. If they designed\built no new boats then just inflitrate their shipyard to make future attempts easier

[Playergamer]

My vote is still counter-espionage, protect the Victoria design.

This is a very revolutionary design. It would be short-sighted treason to let it slip into enemy hands.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

And lets play no spies game protecting our designs forever.

I repeat, we can't gain anything from counter-espionage. Zero chances to get a good result

PS. I will laugh if monarchists and loyalist will steal techs from each other and will have one more design then we do.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

It's been long enough that those who haven't posted are assumed to support the choice.  Production is set to the Victoria II Air Rifle.

Begin Espionage Phase

[Sheb]

Let's steal whatever the Monarchy did.