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[Graknorke]

Would it work if we left the hull as it was? Though at that point maybe it isn't even worth bothering.

[flazeo25]

Well we did get better engine tech so might aswell try to replace it.

Spoiler: Am-Mulard RS (click to show/hide)

A steamship 115 feet by 23 feet large that carries a AM-R-II on the front of the ship and one 6 Pound Cannons on each side. It's other decks are striped out leaving only one deck left, It engine is replace with the new low pressure model which powers twin paddle wheels. It contains two masts and has a light wooden frame.

Edit:This is  my thought for revise of it. changes would be replaced engine, two masts, striped out most of decks and losing two cannons but replacing one with AM-R-II.

[Graknorke]

Oh right, we improved our engine tech. Maybe it'd be lighter than whatever we were using before, so we could have the thing float. Sails are apparently a good idea for seagoing paddle steamers too.

Beneviento, what do you think? You seem to be the most knowledgeable about ships.

[flazeo25]

Oh right, we improved our engine tech. Maybe it'd be lighter than whatever we were using before, so we could have the thing float. Sails are apparently a good idea for seagoing paddle steamers too.

Beneviento, what do you think? You seem to be the most knowledgeable about ships.

Also we can use our new resource to try get wood or something which would bring down cost of ships if we can get wood.

[Kashyyk]

The three resources that will be on offer next turn is wood (for boats and other large wooden constructions), coal (for steam engines) and ore (for the obvious).

With a good roll you'll get away with that revision, otherwise not everything will get implemented.

[Beneviento]

I feel like with three guns, we're not really gaining that much over gunboats. Also, I'd really like to have a stern chaser, because if we're using these to raid loyalist trade and run away from real warships, I want something to cut their rigging up as we run to slow pursuit. Speaking of gunboats, what if we build them a bit longer, put a single mast and a stern cannon on them, and pack them full of men to board the enemy? That might fulfill the commerce raider role quite well. It may overstep the bounds of revision, in which case we could lose the stern gun and the lengthening, but overall at least it's a step, and one that's based on things that can't go horribly wrong.

[evilcherry]

Spoiler: final compromise proposal (click to show/hide)

Am-Mulard Class (Its the same ship, we do have one languishing in the inland lake)
- 115 feet by 23 feet
- Foremast and Mizzenmast only, square rigged - no Bermuda rigs, no real mainmast since its too stressful for the little ship
- updated steam engine, same power as before, mainly to cut weight
- 6lber stern chaser added, so 1 gun in each cardinal direction

Even so if revise is that restrictive I'd like to move on to some other more useful things. This is just a deadend project.

[Beneviento]

Why are only putting one cannon on each side?

[evilcherry]

Why are only putting one cannon on each side?

Someone might rule that this will not be a revision but redesign.

Though I won't object to as many cannons each side.

[flazeo25]

Why are only putting one cannon on each side?

Someone might rule that this will not be a revision but redesign.

Though I won't object to as many cannons each side.

Well not sure how many cannons we can get away with.

[Kashyyk]

My main concerns was the restructuring and the addition of Bermuda rigged sails. Following that revision you could add a many guns as you think  appropriate.

[evilcherry]

My main concerns was the restructuring and the addition of Bermuda rigged sails. Following that revision you could add a many guns as you think  appropriate.

Then we can agree on "as many as it can be fitted on as long as a balance can be struck". I mean, guns at that times aren't that immobile items, they can just be taken out of the ship...

[flazeo25]

My main concerns was the restructuring and the addition of Bermuda rigged sails. Following that revision you could add a many guns as you think  appropriate.

Then we can agree on "as many as it can be fitted on as long as a balance can be struck". I mean, guns at that times aren't that immobile items, they can just be taken out of the ship...

Should we have aleast one howitzs on it then?

[evilcherry]

My main concerns was the restructuring and the addition of Bermuda rigged sails. Following that revision you could add a many guns as you think  appropriate.

Then we can agree on "as many as it can be fitted on as long as a balance can be struck". I mean, guns at that times aren't that immobile items, they can just be taken out of the ship...

Should we have aleast one howitzs on it then?

Not sure. In the lake this is devastating; in the sea its basically a one shot per tack wonder and a long gun will be more useful (especially when it is no longer a paddle raider)

I suggest we can design for that gun but note that its easy to swap it out for a 6-lber.

[flazeo25]

Not sure. In the lake this is devastating; in the sea its basically a one shot per tack wonder and a long gun will be more useful (especially when it is no longer a paddle raider)

I suggest we can design for that gun but note that its easy to swap it out for a 6-lber.

Well both version of the howtizs have better range then our 6 pounder, plus all three are very expensive. If each howitzs equalled 2 or 3 6-pounders by weight then instead of going all out we could have 1 AM-R-II on front and 2 AM-R on each side then?