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[tryrar]

I was more going to revise our muskets into practical rifled muskets using a minie ball(we have artillery down pat, especially with our successful espionage)

[fillipk]

I think the cheap pistol and then revising our muskets would be the best, I support an effort to land as long as we clear the confederacy out of the seas.

[tryrar]

I think the cheap pistol and then revising our muskets would be the best, I support an effort to land as long as we clear the confederacy out of the seas.

I wanted the steam engine because it'll give us a lot of good tech we can branch off of as well as maximizing our resources

[Happerry]

I think the cheap pistol and then revising our muskets would be the best, I support an effort to land as long as we clear the confederacy out of the seas.

I wanted the steam engine because it'll give us a lot of good tech we can branch off of as well as maximizing our resources

We just got told that our government/faction wanted something more useful for land combat, so while I think steam engines would be nice, I'd prefer to get them next turn. As well, (cheap) pistols for everyone will be an advantage in naval combat too, because they'll be a lot more handy then longarms in a boarding action. Meanwhile, we need to do something to counter the rifle upgrades everyone else is doing. (And we might want to see if we can steal borrow that revolving musket Fort Combe just put out this turn, too. Assuming we can with the whole 'they just lost' thing at least.)

[tryrar]

I think the cheap pistol and then revising our muskets would be the best, I support an effort to land as long as we clear the confederacy out of the seas.

I wanted the steam engine because it'll give us a lot of good tech we can branch off of as well as maximizing our resources

We just got told that our government/faction wanted something more useful for land combat, so while I think steam engines would be nice, I'd prefer to get them next turn. As well, (cheap) pistols for everyone will be an advantage in naval combat too, because they'll be a lot more handy then longarms in a boarding action. Meanwhile, we need to do something to counter the rifle upgrades everyone else is doing. (And we might want to see if we can steal borrow that revolving musket Fort Combe just put out this turn, too. Assuming we can with the whole 'they just lost' thing at least.)

Oh, missed that part in the update. Yeah, we can put off for a turn. So with that in mind, I'm gonna shoot for the moon a little:

Spoiler: Mk. 1 revolver (click to show/hide)

This new pistol has a 5-shot revolving chamber and a single fixed barrel. It incorporates a percussion can system to set off the gunpowder charge in the chamber, and is designed to for .36 ball ammo.

Basically, a Colt Paterson revolver.

[andrea]

that is a bit ahead of time. Although getting percussion caps would be great.

I was thinking: if we can cast the howitzer with our improved techniques , its explosive range should turn out something like 250/300 m. That is quite a feat, it is almost the range of our prvious cannons.

Pity we didn't manage to capture the pirate tech for cheaper cannons however.

[tryrar]

I did say I was shooting for the moon a little

And yeah, if we can cast the howitzers they should be pretty good. That does raise the point though: Hey Zan do we need to revise them to use our improved casting techniques?

[Happerry]

So, brainstorming a bit on future plans.

If you look at the game map, just to the right of Worchester, in Dunwich land, there's a small peninsula right next to an area flanked by two rivers. Currently, we both have cheaper cannons then everyone else (because we have another ore), and we also have superior cannons that out-range anything Dunwich currently has.

To me, that looks like an opportunity. If we can get a longarm upgrade of any sort that would let us counter the advantage of their Air Rifles, I think we should be able to take that peninsula and invade into the area between those two rivers, especially since our first transports should be coming out of the docks this turn, so we'll be able to invade with a lot more people at once.

Once we have landed and made our initial beachhead, our advantage in artillery should prove a key advantage, and with the rivers guarding our flanks (and only one direction we have to guard against on the peninsula if we take that too), I don't think they'll be able to throw us back.

But to make that initial beachhead, we're going to need to counter their air rifles, so I really think that a longarm upgrade is what we should do this turn, either in the design, revision, or sneaky git espionage phase.

...as always, feedback and advice is welcome, and so are any better ideas someone else might have,

[Aseaheru]

Going and writing up my two suggestions for the turn.

Spoiler: Repeating Pistol Mk1 (click to show/hide)

 The repeating pistol mark one is a double action, six barreled, 40 caliber pepperbox revolver utilizing new percussion caps (made of brass and using potassium chlorate as its explosive).

 A single pull of the trigger lifts the bar hammer, rotates the barrel assembly, and allows the hammer to fall onto the cap. Inorder to help prevent chainfires all but the "active" cap is covered via a metal shield.

 Inorder to speed reloading, the entire barrel assembly can be removed and replaced with another.

 The barrels are unrifled and 4in long.

Spoiler: Fast Action Rifle Mk1 (click to show/hide)

 The "Fast Action" Rifle mark one is, simply put, a brown bess musket with the breach removed and replaced with a section that, when a side-mounted knob on the breachblock is rotated the rearmost section of the barrel pops out, allowing the loading of its paper cartridge. The barrel section is then pushed down and the block is rotated back to its inital position.

 The weapon is also rifled, and the munitions use soft lead so they can expand and fill the rifleing, aided by the shape of the cast rounds(which include a dimple in the base and a slightly pointed nose).

[andrea]

Considering that the peninsula is one of my stated priorities for this war, I agree. However, I suggest the peninsula itself as target, so that we can have our ships guard the sides. I am not sure if they can navigate the rivers to provide us support, and the support of our ships could prove essential, especially during the first phases of the fight, when our ground troops aren't properly deployed.

Ships also give us a nice artillery advantage, since they have many cannons outranging anything the confederacy can bring ( and matching the monarchy howitzers).

For this reason, I propose we design a new rifle. A pistol will be useful this turn only if we decide not to strike at the mainland, but with monarchy and confederacy busy fighting at the sides, this might be a great time to strike behind their lines.

If we capture the peninsula, we get a  good staging ground for any future operations.

[tryrar]

Here's an idea for a rifle using percussion caps:

Spoiler: Imperial Mk.1 Rifle (click to show/hide)

A breechloading rifle using a specially shaped round designed to engage the grooves when the pressure of the gunpowder pushes on the conical base. it is primed using a new percussion cap consisting of a stabilized mercury fulminatecoating, that when dtriggered directs a blast of hot gas and flame down a nipple igniting the powder charge.

[Aseaheru]

Suggested designs edited into place.

Also, I really suggest we dont use mercury fulminate. Tad too energetic, in my opinion.

[tryrar]

Suggested designs edited into place.

Also, I really suggest we dont use mercury fulminate. Tad too energetic, in my opinion.

You forgot to specify minie balls asa, which made rifled muskets actially prqctical. Add that in and you have my +1

[andrea]

indeed, add that and I am voting for the fast action rifle.

[Aseaheru]

 Proto-Minie balls added.