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[Cheedows]

I've played this since Marchish, and have been with the Black Knights for awhile. Anywho, a good way to grow is to raid the countless inactive nations with no military with tons of stocked up money and resources. Just be sure not to raid any alliances at all, just don't do it you'll get countered, receive bad rep and likely pay the alliance back in reparations. As well, there is a fair bit of money to be made in brokering on the Orbis market, I used to do this but stopped due to time constraints but it can be lucrative. A little crappy guide on brokering, since I'm by far not the best but it's the general gist.

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So, here it is.

You can set up 2 forms of offers, an offer to buy a resource and an offer to sell a resource.
You basically, set up an offer to buy a resource whose highest "bid" has the greatest difference with the lowest offer to sell. This is your profit for every unit you buy and sell, and it stacks up.
The offers to buy are generally lower than the to sell offers because people sell you (the buyer) at a lower price for instant cash on hand for their side. You can probably tell, this can make you a pretty penny fairly quickly depending on market activity.
The best resources to broker are the war resources, munitions, steel, aluminum and gas especially during war time, which is right now. This is mostly due to the activity of these resource markets, allowing you to gain a profit faster and reinvest it into brokering.

An that's it, you can probably ask someone in your alliance about brokering who will be loads more experienced than myself, but this starts you off while you stay unaligned.

[Muz]

Brokering is a little risky if you don't have the cash, especially since prices are very unstable now. I've lost big money on it recently because of the war ending abruptly and prices crashed.

What I do is I post really high sell offers or buy offers. I've made millions this way, and it's a lot less risky if you happen to do it when the market prices are off.

Thanks for all the referrals guys but I wasn't expecting that at all. You should probably give them to other Bay12ers too. I already have four so that seems a bit excessive.

Haha ok, I'll go cycle it to someone else.

[andrea]

I got 2 referrals. I think you should now switch the link to somebody else.

Also, joined the knights radiant in the end. I believe lukewarm is there too.

[Lukewarm]

Also, joined the knights radiant in the end. I believe lukewarm is there too.

Yepperoni.

[andrea]

south texas, recruiter by general lee himself. how could I forget that?

[lemon10]

I got 2 referrals. I think you should now switch the link to somebody else.

Also, joined the knights radiant in the end. I believe lukewarm is there too.

I've already got two referrals, swapping should probably wait till you get to 4 like umiman to swap it to me since there isn't anyone else that has posted theirs yet (or give it to someone else if someone else does post a link).

[Muz]

Haha most of you guys are in TKR? I'm in The Syndicate. TKR's pretty good. They were an ex-protectorate of The Syndicate and grew out of that status really fast. I'm thinking of switching over but will wait and see if you guys are making a B12 alliance. Alliance switching means I have to pay back all aid.

So what's a good name for a B12 alliance? Slaves to Armok? The Fortress?

[Lukewarm]

We might want to hold off on making an alliance for a while, until our cities have developed further.
Probably would be wise to hold off on taking aid, for your reason.

[Cheedows]

If you're good friends with the leader of an alliance you can get a protectorate right off the bat. Not gonna join you folks in the Bay12 AA though, but I wish you luck when you do make it.

[Muz]

We might want to hold off on making an alliance for a while, until our cities have developed further.
Probably would be wise to hold off on taking aid, for your reason.

Nah, just take aid and repay it back later. Most alliances are very open to the idea of treating aid like a loan. If it really bothers them just pay back more.

Like if it's 10M in aid, pay back 15M. It's a good deal on both sides, because otherwise it takes a really long time to hit that point where you'll be making 500k a day.

[Cheedows]

Well this war is over. So if you want to get involved in the next war (which is usually the funnest parts of the game, not this one but usually) then I'd join a high ranking alliance now and start to really grow so you can actively fight once it comes. You still got a few months, probably though so don't sweat it.

[umiman]

It's gonna be another 8 more days or so before I can build another city. Zzzz...

[a1s]

So are we making  a B12 alliance or should I join something else.
Also, woah, coal is way more expensive than it should be.

[Cheedows]

Coal is a component in steel, which is currently one of the most overpriced commodities on the market.

[Muz]

So are we making  a B12 alliance or should I join something else.
Also, woah, coal is way more expensive than it should be.

I think it'll be a while. 10 active members seems to be the inflection point for an alliance to take off. Join something else first

Coal's been a bit crazy for the past month, because war > tanks > steel > coal. You should've seen it when it hit $2500.