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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #105 on: November 05, 2015, 11:54:02 am »

Most likely referring to the following sections of the passages you linked:

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AIDS probably was a manufactured disease.

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I believe AIDS is a disease which has been created in the laboratory and I think that one purpose it serves is to get rid of people who are so stupid as to go along with our homosexual program.
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2015, 12:05:43 pm »

I laughed out loud at one of the predictions being "MUSIC WILL GET WORSE." I knew Nickelback couldn't get famous without help from the World Government.
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« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2015, 12:15:58 pm »

I laughed out loud at one of the predictions being "MUSIC WILL GET WORSE." I knew Nickelback couldn't get famous without help from the World Government.

Blame Canada for Nickelback.
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2015, 12:51:57 pm »

Also while some of the things are plausible (the music one) many of these are either barnum statements (again, like the music prediction), and/or arbitrary subjective/non-objective value judgements (the music example fits here again)
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2015, 12:54:02 pm »

Most likely referring to the following sections of the passages you linked:

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AIDS probably was a manufactured disease.

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I believe AIDS is a disease which has been created in the laboratory and I think that one purpose it serves is to get rid of people who are so stupid as to go along with our homosexual program.

Thats tape 3.
The homosexual part where he says "people who are so stupid as to go along with our homosexual program" he is talking about how the insider saw the homosexuals, based on this insider (and his group) eugenistic views and their views about homosexuality.
The part where he said that aids was problably used as a eugenistic tool, is something that (with all the info he has) he asumed that was made/is being made and not something the insider actually told him they were going to do.
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2015, 01:03:33 pm »

I thought AIDS, along with cocaine, were created by the CIA to kill blacks.  It's hard to keep all of these conspiracies straight.
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2015, 01:06:28 pm »

The CIA is flexible, they made AIDS to kill the blacks but then they decided that teh gays were an even bigger threat.
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2015, 01:34:22 pm »

Also while some of the things are plausible (the music one) many of these are either barnum statements (again, like the music prediction), and/or arbitrary subjective/non-objective value judgements (the music example fits here again)

Additionally, many of the things are things which could so easily happen on their own that their occurrence would provide no meaningful confirmation
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2015, 04:07:35 pm »

Just saw an article (someone linked to it on the laughable things thread) about a theory about the pyramids that's even stupider than ancoent aliens or pyramid power

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-pyramids
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« Reply #114 on: November 05, 2015, 05:56:21 pm »

I'm surprised that nobody posted https://xkcd.com/690/ already, unless I missed it...

(But while I'm quoting XKCD, there's also https://xkcd.com/258/ on one side of the discussion and https://xkcd.com/966/ on another...  Remember to check the hover-texts for extra bonuses...)
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« Reply #115 on: November 05, 2015, 06:09:55 pm »

so this video for some reason popped up in my recommends and i posted about it in another thread. who knows why. see how long you can go before your brain melts from the shear stupidity or you cant take it anymore. always fun refuting conspiracy claims with highschool physics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #116 on: November 05, 2015, 06:34:50 pm »

so this video for some reason popped up in my recommends and i posted about it in another thread. who knows why. see how long you can go before your brain melts from the shear stupidity or you cant take it anymore. always fun refuting conspiracy claims with highschool physics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg
But... down is towards the centre of the Earth, so rivers don't have to go up to follow the globe. As far as I can tell that makes up the majority of his stuff (things on a level don't go up or downhill).

EDIT: And also the lack of understanding of the atmosphere is painful. Everything is moving with the Earth, things in the air don't suddenly lose all their momentum relative to the planet. That would be silly.
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #117 on: November 05, 2015, 06:55:50 pm »

so this video for some reason popped up in my recommends and i posted about it in another thread. who knows why. see how long you can go before your brain melts from the shear stupidity or you cant take it anymore. always fun refuting conspiracy claims with highschool physics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg
But... down is towards the centre of the Earth, so rivers don't have to go up to follow the globe. As far as I can tell that makes up the majority of his stuff (things on a level don't go up or downhill).

EDIT: And also the lack of understanding of the atmosphere is painful. Everything is moving with the Earth, things in the air don't suddenly lose all their momentum relative to the planet. That would be silly.
but if you dismiss physics as part of the conspiracy than it makes perfect sense!
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #118 on: November 05, 2015, 07:02:52 pm »

but if you dismiss physics as part of the conspiracy than it makes perfect sense!
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he strongly believes gravity doesn't exist in the first place
but... how?
And apparently he will only accept evidence that he himself can perform and measure with things he has on hand. Which puts a lot of limits on things unless he happens to have a physics lab in his shed.
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Re: Conspiracy theories and the failure of reason
« Reply #119 on: November 05, 2015, 09:16:05 pm »

I'm surprised that nobody posted https://xkcd.com/690/ already, unless I missed it...

(But while I'm quoting XKCD, there's also https://xkcd.com/258/ on one side of the discussion and https://xkcd.com/966/ on another...  Remember to check the hover-texts for extra bonuses...)

Perhaps more importantly, anybody who perceived the twin towers as having melted needs to lay off the LSD
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