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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #495 on: November 13, 2015, 05:43:47 pm »

Reports on casualties are all over the place at th'mo. No one seems to know what's going on, quite yet, and shit's still going down. Probably won't get all puzzled out for a few days, at the least, really...
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« Reply #496 on: November 13, 2015, 05:45:19 pm »

shooting in a restaurant and a suicide bomber apparently? i have seen footage of body's in the streets on youtube and an evacuating stadium.

npr  http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/13/455943961/violence-reported-in-paris

huge sounding explosion on the video they had. this cant end well.

Eleanor reports that there were three instances of violence. A shooting took place in front a restaurant, another happened in a concert hall called the Bataclan, where, she says, a hostage situation is currently unfolding. The third was an explosion outside the national stadium, just outside of the city, where a soccer game between Germany and France was being played.
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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #497 on: November 13, 2015, 05:47:15 pm »

Edit : apparently, some of the shooters screamed "For Syria".

I get the feeling this may lead to a few problems with the Syrian Refugees.
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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #498 on: November 13, 2015, 05:54:42 pm »

Edit : apparently, some of the shooters screamed "For Syria".

I get the feeling this may lead to a few problems with the Syrian Refugees.

Indeed. I am reminded of people claiming that there were no terrorists among the refugees and anyone claiming that was a paranoid xenophobe. Other things that've been said in their defense will probably not be taken quite so seriously anymore. All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not over there.


Also I know we've moved on, but I didn't want this left unanswered. He's probably referring to Emperor Heraclius' cooperation with the Turkic Khanagate against the Sassanids. The turks that settled in the conquered Sassanid lands eventually became the Seljuk Empire, but that didn't happen for almost 400 years. There was a lot of raiding going on by Turks, but there wasn't a whole lot of conquering going on.

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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #499 on: November 13, 2015, 05:57:24 pm »

Edit : apparently, some of the shooters screamed "For Syria".

I get the feeling this may lead to a few problems with the Syrian Refugees.

Oh yeah, the right wingers and anti-immigrants will definetly pounce on that. Also, France just joined the coalition a few weeks ago.

My first thought when I heard about that stuff is Mumbai, it sounds like the 'many places at once' strategy that I've heard was used in Mumbai.

Edit: And I think the Shingen thing just died, at least temporarily.
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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #500 on: November 13, 2015, 06:07:11 pm »

Euronews channel (if you have access to it), is providing live coverage and commentary on the Paris attacks.

Just heard that entirety of France is in state of emergency, with borders closed and French army soldiers are deployed in Paris. Confirmed 42 dead. There is up to 100 or more hostages in Bataclan theatre.
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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #501 on: November 13, 2015, 06:12:21 pm »

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Edit : apparently, some of the shooters screamed "For Syria".
I get the feeling this may lead to a few problems with the Syrian Refugees.
Oh yeah, the right wingers and anti-immigrants will definetly pounce on that. Also, France just joined the coalition a few weeks ago.
My first thought when I heard about that stuff is Mumbai, it sounds like the 'many places at once' strategy that I've heard was used in Mumbai.
Edit: And I think the Shingen thing just died, at least temporarily.
Dozens dead and hostages in Bataclan, a state of emergency in an "unprecedented terrorits attack"[sic] and it's darn those right wingers and anti-immigrants? Priorities are set well. 40 dead now and 60 hostages?

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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #502 on: November 13, 2015, 06:14:03 pm »

This probaby needs its own thread.

This is starting to sound like European 9/11, and the aftermath for this is going to be very, very bad...

Saying that this is more fuel for the islamophobic sentiment in France is completely reasonable and probably completely intended.
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« Reply #503 on: November 13, 2015, 06:15:57 pm »

So multiple attacks all over the globe, from iraq to lebanon in the last 24h and now france also.
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« Reply #504 on: November 13, 2015, 06:18:18 pm »

So multiple attacks all over the globe, from iraq to lebanon in the last 24h and now france also.

Attacks in Iraq are kinda a daily thing, but yeah, the timing of this attack is close to the Lebanon attack yesterday.
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« Reply #505 on: November 13, 2015, 06:18:47 pm »

CNN's saying that BMTV is saying at least 60 dead.

I thought France was going to try to beef up intel and security after Charlie Hebdo? Also, I don't want to be that guy, but wouldn't France have at least stepped up efforts when they joined in the coalition? Especially after the Russian plane got bombed.
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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #506 on: November 13, 2015, 06:21:20 pm »

This probaby needs its own thread.
This is starting to sound like European 9/11, and the aftermath for this is going to be very, very bad...
Saying that this is more fuel for the islamophobic sentiment in France is completely reasonable and probably completely intended.
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CNN's saying that BMTV is saying at least 60 dead.

I thought France was going to try to beef up intel and security after Charlie Hebdo? Also, I don't want to be that guy, but wouldn't France have at least stepped up efforts when they joined in the coalition? Especially after the Russian plane got bombed.
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« Reply #507 on: November 13, 2015, 06:23:13 pm »

 prepare for islamophobics as now it will be somewhat justified in the long run.
since these attacks aint going to stop these kind of beliefs will just expand.
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« Reply #508 on: November 13, 2015, 06:25:57 pm »

prepare for islamophobics as now it will be somewhat justified in the long run.
since these attacks aint going to stop these kind of beliefs will just expand.

Maybe that's exactly what the terrorists want, who the hell knows.

But yeah, you guys saw the rise in islamaphobia over here in the US after 9/11.
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Re: European Union thread
« Reply #509 on: November 13, 2015, 06:27:31 pm »

anyone want to create a french crisis thread?
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