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[smjjames]

I'm rather proud of the fact that people round here keep saying I change when the topics of conversation change.  A week ago a bunch of the liberal americans in the political thread were asking why I had changed into such a bullheaded Clinton partisan who was denying that Bernie Sanders had won the debate.

I don't remember people saying that, but okay......

And yes you were being a Clinton partisan over there. If anybody 'won' the debate, it was both Sanders and Clinton since Webb and Chafee both had poor showings. O'Malley didn't do great, but he didn't do it particularly poorly either.

[mainiac]

Oh hey, that's a nice spot over there you've moved the goalposts.

[Loud Whispers]

"This is our future." Hahahahahaha good job Germany

Also a Swede reporter tried to go into a no go zone, did not realize why they're called no go zones and got pelted with rocks the tolerant swedish way
"They thought we crossed the border and that we were standing on their land, says Valentina Xhaferi."
Top lel

Thanks Yuros, you are best entertainment, very good at eurovision
In all seriousness though welcome to obvious consequences yet again, I really shouldn't laugh but I'm being vindicated in the most hilarious ways, it's like parody come to life. By the way the "refugees" have broken through the Slovenian border so you can be enriched some more ;P There is no need to be upset, it is merely zuspät4u

[Sheb]

Austria wants to build a fence along its border with Slovenia.

[Loud Whispers]

Austria wants to build a fence along its border with Slovenia.

A border on the border between two schengens? Well that's sort of new.

[Morrigi]

"This is our future." Hahahahahaha good job Germany

Also a Swede reporter tried to go into a no go zone, did not realize why they're called no go zones and got pelted with rocks the tolerant swedish way
"They thought we crossed the border and that we were standing on their land, says Valentina Xhaferi."
Top lel

Thanks Yuros, you are best entertainment, very good at eurovision
In all seriousness though welcome to obvious consequences yet again, I really shouldn't laugh but I'm being vindicated in the most hilarious ways, it's like parody come to life. By the way the "refugees" have broken through the Slovenian border so you can be enriched some more ;P There is no need to be upset, it is merely zuspät4u

But there's no such thing as no-go zones, that's just a racist conspiracy theory! :^)

[Bouchart]

Lock up those gates of Vienna.

[Sheb]

But there's no such thing as no-go zones, that's just a racist conspiracy theory! :^)

Are there really no-go zones? That seems extreme, WTF are you up to Sweden?

[sprinkled chariot]

"This is our future." Hahahahahaha good job Germany

Also a Swede reporter tried to go into a no go zone, did not realize why they're called no go zones and got pelted with rocks the tolerant swedish way
"They thought we crossed the border and that we were standing on their land, says Valentina Xhaferi."
Top lel

Thanks Yuros, you are best entertainment, very good at eurovision
In all seriousness though welcome to obvious consequences yet again, I really shouldn't laugh but I'm being vindicated in the most hilarious ways, it's like parody come to life. By the way the "refugees" have broken through the Slovenian border so you can be enriched some more ;P There is no need to be upset, it is merely zuspät4u

Those guys with black flag have beatiful nasheed huh.

[Loud Whispers]

Cheeki nashid selawat

[smjjames]

"This is our future." Hahahahahaha good job Germany

Also a Swede reporter tried to go into a no go zone, did not realize why they're called no go zones and got pelted with rocks the tolerant swedish way
"They thought we crossed the border and that we were standing on their land, says Valentina Xhaferi."
Top lel

Thanks Yuros, you are best entertainment, very good at eurovision
In all seriousness though welcome to obvious consequences yet again, I really shouldn't laugh but I'm being vindicated in the most hilarious ways, it's like parody come to life. By the way the "refugees" have broken through the Slovenian border so you can be enriched some more ;P There is no need to be upset, it is merely zuspät4u

Wait, no-go zones are real? That's just stupid and shouldn't be tolerated IMO.

Before, I thought the no-go zones were just some political BS that was being thrown around and not an actual thing being implemented or thought about. Pardon me saying it in here in the EU thread of all places, but no-go zones would be un-American.

[wierd]

Herein lies the problem with universal tolerance.  It is impossible. Universal tolerance requires tolerance of intolerance.

If you are intolerant to intolerance, then you have to infringe on groups who's creed revolves around elitism. This includes orthodox judaeism, and islamic extremism. (Both groups hold views that their group is the bestest best thing ever, and is naturally blessed with divine favor, so they can do all kinds of terrible things to other groups of people. It's right in their religious texts.)

It sure would be nice if people could be sensible, but people who's religious faith centers around non-sensible things, like divine favor enabled biggotry, makes this impossible.

The best that you can do is say something along the lines of "you can have your religious faith, but you cant always act on it, if doing so results in violating the law."

If Sweden is allowing religious freedoms to trump civil behavior and citizen rights under the law, (such as the implication of these "no go zones") then they are screwing up hard.

[redwallzyl]

"This is our future." Hahahahahaha good job Germany

Also a Swede reporter tried to go into a no go zone, did not realize why they're called no go zones and got pelted with rocks the tolerant swedish way
"They thought we crossed the border and that we were standing on their land, says Valentina Xhaferi."
Top lel

Thanks Yuros, you are best entertainment, very good at eurovision
In all seriousness though welcome to obvious consequences yet again, I really shouldn't laugh but I'm being vindicated in the most hilarious ways, it's like parody come to life. By the way the "refugees" have broken through the Slovenian border so you can be enriched some more ;P There is no need to be upset, it is merely zuspät4u

Wait, no-go zones are real? That's just stupid and shouldn't be tolerated IMO.

so what happened? i get the impression from what you said that a Swedish reporter or a few went into some area and some idiots  thought they were refugees and threw stuff at them. is that right?

[wierd]

Looks more to me like a canary went where the penguins live, and the penguins took offense to the shameless display of color.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area

[smjjames]

Herein lies the problem with universal tolerance.  It is impossible. Universal tolerance requires tolerance of intolerance.

If you are intolerant to intolerance, then you have to infringe on groups who's creed revolves around elitism. This includes orthodox judaeism, and islamic extremism. (Both groups hold views that their group is the bestest best thing ever, and is naturally blessed with divine favor, so they can do all kinds of terrible things to other groups of people. It's right in their religious texts.)

It sure would be nice if people could be sensible, but people who's religious faith centers around non-sensible things, like divine favor enabled biggotry, makes this impossible.

The best that you can do is say something along the lines of "you can have your religious faith, but you cant always act on it, if doing so results in violating the law."

If Sweden is allowing religious freedoms to trump civil behavior and citizen rights under the law, (such as the implication of these "no go zones") then they are screwing up hard.

I figure 'Universial Tolerance' just means there is no intolerance or that intolerance isn't allowed, though yeah, it's kind of an oxymoron because as you say, you can't be intolerant against intolerance if you don't want intolerance.

Also, I thought Orthodox Jews kept their eliteism to themselves, mostly. I don't know how orthodox Netanyhu is.