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Total Members Voted: 14

[tntey]

Also, if anyone wants to join us, feel free to talk to me and jens in private.

[hector13]

Why do you announce the Pantheon and who is a member, yet accept members privately?

((What are you, a Masonic Lodge? ))

[tntey]

Because, it is just easier
((I want people to pm me because I don't have enough time to read everything in the IC, and if you join here I can't guarantee I'll see your post))

[Andres]

I'd also like to point out to Si and Eid that morals are subjective. Just because one individual thinks it's right, does not mean another will.

"Considering an Evil trait exists, a Good trait probably exists too. I think that's enough to disprove the idea that morality is subjective. Maybe morality can be subjective in another universe where absolute traits don't exist, but not in this universe."

[hector13]

I'd also like to point out to Si and Eid that morals are subjective. Just because one individual thinks it's right, does not mean another will.

"Considering an Evil trait exists, a Good trait probably exists too. I think that's enough to disprove the idea that morality is subjective. Maybe morality can be subjective in another universe where absolute traits don't exist, but not in this universe."

Indeed, but we gods have different desires and goals in mind.

What of creations that don't have these traits? How do we judge them?

[Rolepgeek]

"Then could you explain this?

See if I can find the lost soul of the Zhǎngzǐ. And also the lost souls of the Skizani...every good civilization will need at least some unskilled laborers, and even the foolish and weak can be put to use as slaves.

"Context=insufficient_
Incompetence:(others); fault:(self)=false_"

[Andres]

I'd also like to point out to Si and Eid that morals are subjective. Just because one individual thinks it's right, does not mean another will.

"Considering an Evil trait exists, a Good trait probably exists too. I think that's enough to disprove the idea that morality is subjective. Maybe morality can be subjective in another universe where absolute traits don't exist, but not in this universe."

Indeed, but we gods have different desires and goals in mind.

What of creations that don't have these traits? How do we judge them?

"Desires and goals do not determine what is good and what is evil, not even gods unless the gods vote on it ((actually, I should ask if this is still the case)). Creatures without the traits are simply capable of both good and evil. It doesn't mean they are neither good nor evil objectively. They should be judged on a case-by-case basis. Some individuals will be good, some evil, and some somewhere in-between."

[Detoxicated]

The Spiral Cloud that is Srillian moves over the planets to be seen by all creations

[FallacyofUrist]

"Honestly, I prefer the name "Alpha Pantheon" but whatever. It works either way."

[Stirk]

I'd also like to point out to Si and Eid that morals are subjective. Just because one individual thinks it's right, does not mean another will.

"Considering an Evil trait exists, a Good trait probably exists too. I think that's enough to disprove the idea that morality is subjective. Maybe morality can be subjective in another universe where absolute traits don't exist, but not in this universe."

"Hows dat work, 'exactly? Ya full a hot air an' applesauce, da evil trait jus' makes em act in a way dey think's evil. Don' make morality a scale."

[hector13]

"Desires and goals do not determine what is good and what is evil, not even gods unless the gods vote on it ((actually, I should ask if this is still the case)). Creatures without the traits are simply capable of both good and evil. It doesn't mean they are neither good nor evil objectively. They should be judged on a case-by-case basis. Some individuals will be good, some evil, and some somewhere in-between."

Judging them on a case-by-case basis suggest that there are going to be different ways to interpret the same action. Why is that, if morality is so black and white?

[micelus]

"Oh, how embarrassing! Well truth be told, you had not announced anything more than an alliance so I assumed it was nothing more than that!"

"Si, Bohenar, how does the Arcane Entente sound?

[Rolepgeek]

I'd also like to point out to Si and Eid that morals are subjective. Just because one individual thinks it's right, does not mean another will.

"Considering an Evil trait exists, a Good trait probably exists too. I think that's enough to disprove the idea that morality is subjective. Maybe morality can be subjective in another universe where absolute traits don't exist, but not in this universe."

"Hows dat work, 'exactly? Ya full a hot air an' applesauce, da evil trait jus' makes em act in a way dey think's evil. Don' make morality a scale."

"Agreement_
Trait:("Evil")=subjective; necessitates:(trait:"Good")=false"

[~Neri]

"Kind of. Those birds are penguins. The penguins are being tamed so they can be pets. The difference between a pet and a slave is that a slave has to work all day and gets beaten if it stops. Pets like to be pets, but slaves don't like to be slaves. Another thing is that only animals would like being pets. Smart creatures like Skizani wouldn't want to be pets."

"I would argue that some sapients would enjoy being pets. Being taken care of all day, not having to work. Being able to nap in the sun. A life of luxury some would say."

[Rolepgeek]

"Kind of. Those birds are penguins. The penguins are being tamed so they can be pets. The difference between a pet and a slave is that a slave has to work all day and gets beaten if it stops. Pets like to be pets, but slaves don't like to be slaves. Another thing is that only animals would like being pets. Smart creatures like Skizani wouldn't want to be pets."

"I would argue that some sapients would enjoy being pets. Being taken care of all day, not having to work. Being able to nap in the sun. A life of luxury some would say."

"Additional); cage:(gilded)=cage_"