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[Rolepgeek]

How many trees do you think there are? You're making every single one sentient. That costs at least as much as creating mortals, since you'd almost certainly make them worship you. In fact, it would probably make Zhin more likely to kill them since he wouldn't want your follower base to be larger than his permanently.

Also I find it hilarious that it's a giant living god-city going to war with a giant living god-tree. Industrialism versus the extremist green movement.

[micelus]

It would be entertaining to watch, to say the least.

[Demonic Spoon]

This is kinda what The Don was talking about.

Now that nobody can use trees, we are making alternatives instead of more trees. Thus decreasing the potential amount of trees in the world for little reason...

I don't care if the entire planet isn't literally covered entirely in trees as long as no one is cutting down trees. Maximum proliferation is not the highest priority for me. Otherwise I wouldn't have done anything except make more trees with all my essence, and just boost their fruitfulness to the max.

Influence
Influence is a source of income based on how much your sphere affects the world. Affecting it are factors such as integration into the world, display of sphere in the world, and size of sphere. A few sample Influence incomes are listed here:

• A goddess of Earth giving up much power to be made into a planet: ~4E/Tick
• A god of Storms who induces storms sporadically and is known for it: ~2E/Tick
• A Nature goddess whose domain in the mortal realm is widely known and whose subjects(/spies?) are (in)famous: ~3E/Tick
• A god of Stars who gives up much independence and direct power to be made into stars with astrological significance: ~3E/Tick

Influence!

But I see both sides now, and think you're both being silly

Fair enough, I forgot some of the nuance of influence's functioning. But it seems to me more that we're both right, linking a god to their sphere helps with influence, and having your sphere be influential, even if it is not necessarily linked to you, also helps with influence.

How many trees do you think there are? You're making every single one sentient. That costs at least as much as creating mortals, since you'd almost certainly make them worship you. In fact, it would probably make Zhin more likely to kill them since he wouldn't want your follower base to be larger than his permanently.

Also I find it hilarious that it's a giant living god-city going to war with a giant living god-tree. Industrialism versus the extremist green movement.

I did not actually expect the trees to worship me by default. I was going by the pricing of the intelligence trait, and how much treewide augmentations pricechecks have come up at previously. I'm almost certainly not going to do it though (unless suddenly tree hivemind?), so I suggest we just drop it as it's fast becoming a pointless hypothetical that'll cause a long argument.

[Happy Demon]

Si is a goddess of nature, not life. She wont put them on life-support, she'll just have them make new ones and die.
Unlike Sylvan, and the life extension.
If anything, she dislikes the extension of life.
There's no harmony in stagnation.

So if people start cutting down trees, she'll try to find a way to keep the trees getting planted to support the demand.
If the demand is too high (squandering), she'll just kill the people demanding.
Which is why the tributes is a good solution for her.

[Rolepgeek]

Hey man I offered compromise. She's the one to refuse it.

Also it obviously transforms into a giant Mecha Mecca.

[Demonic Spoon]

Hey man I offered compromise. She's the one to refuse it.

Also it obviously transforms into a giant Mecha Mecca.

I have been trying to compromise (very) slightly by pointing out stuff like the fuel trees, but I'll agree we're both being pretty stubborn.

Si is a goddess of nature, not life. She wont put them on life-support, she'll just have them make new ones and die.
Unlike Sylvan, and the life extension.
If anything, she dislikes the extension of life.
There's no harmony in stagnation.

So if people start cutting down trees, she'll try to find a way to keep the trees getting planted to support the demand.
If the demand is too high (squandering), she'll just kill the people demanding.
Which is why the tributes is a good solution for her.

Sure, but I was referring to the gods destroying all trees to piss me off or somethinhg.

[hector13]

You may want to visit this thread RPG...

[Demonic Spoon]

Set a single, random lonely tree on fire.

Unsure if I want to escalate with Zenurion when Zhen is already threatening war...

[TheBiggerFish]

Set a single, random lonely tree on fire.

Unsure if I want to escalate with Zenurion when Zhen is already threatening war...

Do it.  ;P

[Demonic Spoon]

>This Aspect shall simply have to take this matter into their own hands, this Aspect thinks.
Tenat shall create an otherwise mundane plant that is suitable for wood crafts, but is not a tree and is a regrowing source.  Tenat shall create varieties of this plant stacking existing trees and distribute them across the planets, in similar climates as their tree-y ?cousins? but not interfering with said.  Tenat shall alert the lumberjacks to this change.

Zenurion shall oppose this, on the ground of being a lacking workaround that fails to address more than half of the issues, and also because he still remembers the coffee incident.
This is so much bullshit going on, I mean is that tree really trying to stop civilization from growing by starving them of wood? That's so ***** hilarious! Go back to your grove, you dirty hippy and let the real gods take care of the science!
Set a single, random lonely tree on fire.

((I'm assuming this is all happening after the show?))

((Exactly how does it fail to be a workaround?))
>This Aspect queries your problem.

The only thing that it wouldn't solve that I can think of is space for farmland and roads.

[TheBiggerFish]

>This Aspect shall simply have to take this matter into their own hands, this Aspect thinks.
Tenat shall create an otherwise mundane plant that is suitable for wood crafts, but is not a tree and is a regrowing source.  Tenat shall create varieties of this plant stacking existing trees and distribute them across the planets, in similar climates as their tree-y ?cousins? but not interfering with said.  Tenat shall alert the lumberjacks to this change.

Zenurion shall oppose this, on the ground of being a lacking workaround that fails to address more than half of the issues, and also because he still remembers the coffee incident.
This is so much bullshit going on, I mean is that tree really trying to stop civilization from growing by starving them of wood? That's so ***** hilarious! Go back to your grove, you dirty hippy and let the real gods take care of the science!
Set a single, random lonely tree on fire.

((I'm assuming this is all happening after the show?))

((Exactly how does it fail to be a workaround?))
>This Aspect queries your problem.

The only thing that it wouldn't solve that I can think of is space for farmland and roads.

Which can be solved by moving the trees.

[Demonic Spoon]

I'd be willing to move trees out of the way of stuff like roads and farmlands in the interests of maintaining peaceful relations.

EDIT: KJP, could creatures with the [Aligned (Sylvan)] trait move trees?

[TheBiggerFish]

I'd be willing to move trees out of the way of stuff like roads and farmlands in the interests of maintaining peaceful relations.

Yay!  Problem solved!

[Demonic Spoon]

I'd like to note that it'd have to be within reason. Zhen shouldn't be allowed to ask an entire dryadic community of a tens of thousands who'd been living in the area for a couple of centuries to move just because he wants a new highway for example. We'd need to work out specifics. Maybe define national borders or something? I have no idea.

EDIT: And because quite honestly this feels like quite a concession on my part, I'd like some sort of compensation if at all possible, since otherwise it'd seem like I'm giving in to threats of war. I'm just not in the mood for a war atm.

[hector13]

Can I ask why we're discussing this OOC? 'Cause it seems like this is an IC thing...