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Author Topic: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1935 Production  (Read 162748 times)

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Broduction, Bro
« Reply #2700 on: August 19, 2015, 10:24:25 am »

just how much more muscular are our infantrymen compared to pilots? I said 150 just to be on the safe side. and I would imagine we have wide margins of tolerance on such matters.

Still, a field test before a full on paratrooped drop is a good idea. or better, we can ask Sensei if our parachutes are enough to carry a fully equipped infantryman.


If we use paratroopers, we must do it soon, while our bombers are expensive. After we stop getting china ore, they are back to very expensive. Which is fine if all it does is bombing, but not that fine if we want it to fill a double role.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Broduction, Bro
« Reply #2701 on: August 19, 2015, 10:31:24 am »

just how much more muscular are our infantrymen compared to pilots? I said 150 just to be on the safe side. and I would imagine we have wide margins of tolerance on such matters.
I meant that their ammo and rest of equipment is more likely to cause problems. Though, if Sensei gives a green light, I am all for it.
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« Reply #2702 on: August 19, 2015, 10:33:19 am »

we can parachute crates with supplies as well. not optimal, sure, but a possible workaround ( of course each soldier still needs to carry enough stuff to survive until they recover the crates).

I pity the poor guy who gets to carry the radio.

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« Reply #2703 on: August 19, 2015, 10:36:41 am »

we can parachute crates with supplies as well. not optimal, sure, but a possible workaround ( of course each soldier still needs to carry enough stuff to survive until they recover the crates).
It didin't end well for German Fallschirmjägers, but I suppose we must go with that if we don't want to make dedicated weapons for paratroops. That's pretty historical too.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Broduction, Bro
« Reply #2704 on: August 19, 2015, 10:40:02 am »

One thing that should be noted is that our bombers, hopefully, will utilize it's high altitude to survive.

Might be bad for our men, considering they'd be dropping in, likely under fire.
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« Reply #2705 on: August 19, 2015, 10:45:47 am »

I was thinking about using it in the jungle, where anti aircraft would be impaired by trees covering vision of the sky. besides, we don't need to drop them on top of the enemies.

And I imagine that when it comes to dropping soldiers, our crafts will not be at max altitude. ( they are also nearly as fast as our fighters, I imagine they can survive a brief drop to a more regular altitude)
and I suppose our men would not open parachute immediately, so flight time is still limited.

Overall, I think it is worth trying, considering it is just an order. At worst, we can shelf the idea. At best, we can work to improve on it.

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« Reply #2706 on: August 19, 2015, 10:53:13 am »

I was thinking about using it in the jungle, where anti aircraft would be impaired by trees covering vision of the sky. besides, we don't need to drop them on top of the enemies.
AFAIK, their AA is complete shit and the main problem would be enemy figthers.
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« Reply #2707 on: August 19, 2015, 10:55:41 am »

I think they don't have flak yet, which means they rely on direct hits. basically, point machineguns at the sky.

As for fighters, we aren't so outmatched that we can't protect our bombers on a small rid in an area where they don't expct attacks ( air force is generally less present in the jungle. Not saying there is no danger, but I think it is manageable.

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« Reply #2708 on: August 19, 2015, 07:24:58 pm »

We forgot to add a flash suppressor during our MC16 revision...

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« Reply #2709 on: August 19, 2015, 07:38:53 pm »

+1 to at least attempting paradrops in the jungle. Hey if it works, it works, and it can be practice for whenw e get a dedicated cargo/trooper variant of our bomber. And in any case, we could refine tactics in the meantime.
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« Reply #2710 on: August 19, 2015, 08:26:31 pm »

+1 to the paradrops in the jungle.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Broduction, Bro
« Reply #2711 on: August 19, 2015, 10:09:31 pm »

You can order troops to paradrop. Without at least a revision into paratrooper gear/riggings/parachutes, they will be equipped with sidearms and standard uniforms.
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« Reply #2712 on: August 19, 2015, 10:15:23 pm »

You can order troops to paradrop. Without at least a revision into paratrooper gear/riggings/parachutes, they will be equipped with sidearms and standard uniforms.

We have carbines, so I think those could also be used? Hopefully?
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« Reply #2713 on: August 19, 2015, 10:18:07 pm »

Good thing we revised the Pistol then, 'eh?
Ha, imagine making a stealth plane, revising the parachutes, and sending in silent sniper teams.
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« Reply #2714 on: August 19, 2015, 10:24:56 pm »

Good thing we revised the Pistol then, 'eh?
Ha, imagine making a stealth plane, revising the parachutes, and sending in silent sniper teams.

Hrm, not sure if it would be worth it even with our revised pistols, since troops don't seem to be able to carry much with our current gear and pistols won't have much stopping power. Oh well, not like we can do effective bombing(even carpet bombing) in the jungles, and if nothing else it would be a nice distraction. Oh, one more thing, our troops do carry knives right? Those would be handy for paradrops.

Also, order any para-dropped troops to scavenge weapons and gear off the corpses of enemy soldiers. This should increase the effectiveness of this until we can revise proper paratrooper gear.
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