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[10ebbor10]

Yes, but Quantity has it's limits.

[Sheb]

Since I'm not sure which to choose, let me propose this:

Spoiler: AS-F1921 Air Superiority Fighter (click to show/hide)

An all metal monoplane armed with two AS-1910 MGs in the wing and a single, centerfire AS-AC1918 in the propellar shaft. Its body is made of aluminium and it's powered by a single engine. Agility and reliability are the two main characteristics sought after.

[tahu16]

Here is my proposal:

Spoiler: AS-T21 light tank (click to show/hide)

It's a light (8-9 tons), whit a fully rotating turret. The main armament is an AS-AC18, to save space, the crew is fighting off the infantry whit their AS-MC16 using portholes , the turret is strong enough to be up-gunned. It's armor can withstand .60 caliber bullets from all sides (optional: the front should withstand our 20x100mm bullets in chase Moskurgs are updating their anti-armor arsenal). The tank may lack speed, but it's reliable.

[tryrar]

Since I'm not sure which to choose, let me propose this:

Spoiler: AS-F1921 Air Superiority Fighter (click to show/hide)

An all metal monoplane armed with two AS-1910 MGs in the wing and a single, centerfire AS-AC1918 in the propellar shaft. Its body is made of aluminium and it's powered by a single engine. Agility and reliability are the two main characteristics sought after.

That's similar to my idea, but I though of going for two MGs centerline mounted to an interruptor gear, as well as two wing-mounted AC18s. Might hurt agility a bit, but can't argue with the firepower-and in any case, monoplanes tend to be much faster than biplanes, so if nothing else we can use boom-and-zoom tactics(use our speed to outclimb them then dive on them)

[VoidSlayer]

I will support the aluminum based armored car as well, if it turns out expensive due to ore need, we can redesign the truck we have to be aluminum and carry construction equipment for a logistics bonus.

[Sheb]

They only have wood-and-canvas plane so far. We have enough firepower to rip them to shred.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

If no towed AA\AT gun, then....

I prefer quality to quantity, we can always revise vehicle to dumb it down. I see potential  airmobile vehicle here in future. Finally we get even more aluminium experience before doing full aluminium monoplane. 

But I really like Sheb's offer because our alluminum industry gives us huge advantage in the skies and focusing on it will let us win everything but jungles

+ to AS-F1921 Air Superiority Fighter. 

+1 to using aluminium armored car if armored car will win

[tryrar]

Spoiler: Proposals (click to show/hide)

AS-MV21:The MV21 is an armoured car build specifically for Jungle use. It runs on a petrol engine and has hydropneumatic suspension for increased speed, better terrain traversal, and a more stable shooting platform. It has an man-operated turret where a belt-fed AC18 with AP rounds can be mounted, though a 1910 can be mounted there instead. The passenger side has a 1910 mounted on it. The armour in the front should be enough to stop 7.76mm AP rounds, the armour on the sides should be enough to stop .30 cal rounds, and the armour in the rear should be enough to stop .35 cal pistol rounds.

AS-MV21-AL:Same as above, but made out of aluminum and with full aluminum armor, thick enough to stop .60cal bullets.

AS-UG21-40:Design a high velocity 40mm universal gun that can be used both for firing flak shells at their aircrafts, AP shells at their tanks  and light HE shells at their infantry. Its carriage should be optimized to be towed by motorbike through rough terrain for strategical mobility and be light enough allowing crew to push for some tactical mobility

AS-F1921:An all metal monoplane armed with two AS-1910 MGs in the wing and a single, centerfire AS-AC1918 in the propellar shaft. Its body is made of aluminium and it's powered by a single engine. Agility and reliability are the two main characteristics sought after.

Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)

AS-MV21:Andre
AS-MV21-AL:10ebbor, Tryrar, Voidslayer
AS-UG21-40:
AS-F1921:UR(1), Sheb

[Ukrainian Ranger]

To clarify, I don't vote for armored car, i vote to be a tiebrieker should opinion divide between alluminium and normal armored car.

[tryrar]

To clarify, I don't vote for armored car, i vote to be a tiebrieker should opinion divide between alluminium and normal armored car.

Ah

[Aseaheru]

Oy, whoever compiled the suggestions, you missed these

Some ideas for next turn because I may have no internet for two days

Designs

Spoiler: AS-LMG-21 (click to show/hide)

Create a light, man portable, 7.62 mm machine gun. Use all our experience and if possible reserve-engineer captured Brumby to steal some tricks, but not copy their design.

Goal: Start pushing in mountains, get lighter machinegun to supplement 20mm in airforce

Spoiler: AS-AAAT-21-80 (click to show/hide)

80mm universal high velocity AA\AT gun that can engage both tanks  and aircrafts using AP and flak shells. Optimize it to being towed by the truck

Goal = yet another defensive weapon to hold plains

Spoiler: A22 (click to show/hide)

Full aluminium, two engine bomber byplane with closed cockpit. Built for long range and high service ceiling. 

To use Expense for (should we win) and bomb their resources out of them

And this. Which is the main reason why I am iffed by people suggesting extra, near identical, armored cars.

And, beating the rush to submit near identical vehicular designs, the

Spoiler: AS-LAC1/20-21 (Which is totally not a Ferret with an autocannon) (click to show/hide)

 The LAC 1 is a light wheeled vehicle armed with a 20mm autocannon, and a crew of two. The first is the driver, who drives the(hopefully) four ton vehicle, and the second is the commander/gunner, who utilizes the 20mm cannon to chew through the opposition while the driver dodges return fire. For this purpose the vehicle possesses an electronically driven turret. The vehicle possesses minimal armor, only 5mm in all directions except the front, which carries an extra 2.5mm. However, this armor is sloped at a rather extreme angle. The entire vehicle is propelled by a single engine of the sort used in our logistics trucks(modified to produce less smoke) which drives a pair of wheels on each side, all designed to continue working after the wheel goes flat, and utilizing our hydro-pneumatic suspension system.
 There are to be no rivets.

[andrea]

I asked the GM about the costs of RHA. He confirmed my idea that RHA wouldn't inherently cost more ore, although it may make the design complex.

I think I am going to vote for the air superiority fighter. we seem to have the opportunity to win in the sky, and we should do so. If we keep air superiority, we might be able to disrupt their armor and supply lines ( our ground attack aircraft can destroy them easily)

Spoiler: Proposals (click to show/hide)

AS-MV21:The MV21 is an armoured car build specifically for Jungle use. It runs on a petrol engine and has hydropneumatic suspension for increased speed, better terrain traversal, and a more stable shooting platform. It has an man-operated turret where a belt-fed AC18 with AP rounds can be mounted, though a 1910 can be mounted there instead. The passenger side has a 1910 mounted on it. The armour in the front should be enough to stop 7.76mm AP rounds, the armour on the sides should be enough to stop .30 cal rounds, and the armour in the rear should be enough to stop .35 cal pistol rounds.

AS-MV21-AL:Same as above, but made out of aluminum and with full aluminum armor, thick enough to stop .60cal bullets.

AS-UG21-40:Design a high velocity 40mm universal gun that can be used both for firing flak shells at their aircrafts, AP shells at their tanks  and light HE shells at their infantry. Its carriage should be optimized to be towed by motorbike through rough terrain for strategical mobility and be light enough allowing crew to push for some tactical mobility

AS-F1921:An all metal monoplane armed with two AS-1910 MGs in the wing and a single, centerfire AS-AC1918 in the propellar shaft. Its body is made of aluminium and it's powered by a single engine. Agility and reliability are the two main characteristics sought after.

Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)

AS-MV21:Andre
AS-MV21-AL:10ebbor, Tryrar, Voidslayer
AS-UG21-40:
AS-F1921:UR(1), Sheb,Andrea

[tryrar]

I asked the GM about the costs of RHA. He confirmed my idea that RHA wouldn't inherently cost more ore, although it may make the design complex.

I think I am going to vote for the air superiority fighter. we seem to have the opportunity to win in the sky, and we should do so. If we keep air superiority, we might be able to disrupt their armor and supply lines ( our ground attack aircraft can destroy them easily)

Spoiler: Proposals (click to show/hide)

AS-MV21:The MV21 is an armoured car build specifically for Jungle use. It runs on a petrol engine and has hydropneumatic suspension for increased speed, better terrain traversal, and a more stable shooting platform. It has an man-operated turret where a belt-fed AC18 with AP rounds can be mounted, though a 1910 can be mounted there instead. The passenger side has a 1910 mounted on it. The armour in the front should be enough to stop 7.76mm AP rounds, the armour on the sides should be enough to stop .30 cal rounds, and the armour in the rear should be enough to stop .35 cal pistol rounds.

AS-MV21-AL:Same as above, but made out of aluminum and with full aluminum armor, thick enough to stop .60cal bullets.

AS-UG21-40:Design a high velocity 40mm universal gun that can be used both for firing flak shells at their aircrafts, AP shells at their tanks  and light HE shells at their infantry. Its carriage should be optimized to be towed by motorbike through rough terrain for strategical mobility and be light enough allowing crew to push for some tactical mobility

AS-F1921:An all metal monoplane armed with two AS-1910 MGs in the wing and a single, centerfire AS-AC1918 in the propellar shaft. Its body is made of aluminium and it's powered by a single engine. Agility and reliability are the two main characteristics sought after.

Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)

AS-MV21:Andre
AS-MV21-AL:10ebbor, Tryrar, Voidslayer
AS-UG21-40:
AS-F1921:UR(1), Sheb,Andrea

We don't need a fighter this turn, we have the skies for now. What we really need is a ground vehicle that doesn't suck(and believe be, our current "tank" sucks balls)

[Sheb]

I disagree, with their trains under attack they're bound to do something about our air. AA artillery maybe, or just revise their (superior) plane to be cheaper.

[Sensei]

It looks like votes are (marginally) in favor of the AS-MV21-AL. I'm posting it now because if the popular vote changes while I'm writing I'll cry.