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[Sheb]

We just Designed Sexy Nurse Costume in 1909.

[10ebbor10]

I'm under the impression that HEAT involve a metal layer inside the shaped charge to punch through the armor.

Yes, and their APHE is described as a round where the armor penetrating part is propelled into the armor by an explosive in the back.

Disadvantages: Rewards Arstotzka for being salty about a game (Speaking up is fine. Several pages of whining about it is not)

Well, except it doesn't reward us. Rewarding us would mean taking your fancy toy away.

given that there's only able to be arguements for either options A or B

For reasons that should be abundantly clear, I will deliberaty ignore that.

My proposal is an agreeable compromise for all.

[Taricus]

No, option C is only agreeable for Arstotzka. I say there'd be no support for it among Moskurg's players.

[Sheb]

Yeah, because it doesn't give you any further bonus. It just basically change the name of the round from APHE to HEAT.

[Kot]

No, option C is only agreeable for Arstotzka. I say there'd be no support for it among Moskurg's players.

Understandable, considering that most (at least those being vocal) of your players want to win at all cost, even if it means basically cheating.

You see, we're roleplaying, you're rollplaying.

[LordSlowpoke]

You see, we're saltplaying, you're rollplaying.

fixed that for you

[Sheb]

Yeah Kot, no need to be antagonistic.

[evilcherry]

Just retcon the Rhino and Hippo to have enough HE charge to damage the dashed tanks.

I'm really, really fed up with the call for revenge from a couple of Arstotzkans. Is it a proper response/solution for an admin oversight?

[Sheb]

What revenge?

[Kot]

Yeah Kot, no need to be antagonistic.

I am as antagonistic as they are, I mean come on, they're vaguely insulting us all the time (Also, threats of dust devils/ice giants, even after Sensei agreed that this is indeed unrealistic), like, even right now, just because they don't like us calling out on their magic weapons.

Just retcon the Rhino and Hippo to have enough HE charge to damage the dashed tanks.

~5,5 cm HE enough to damage medium armor? Yeah, no, that's not going to happen.

[evilcherry]

What revenge?

Option C is basically equivalent to retconning one revise phase away from us. All because of GM oversight.

Yeah Kot, no need to be antagonistic.

I am as antagonistic as they are, I mean come on, they're vaguely insulting us all the time (Also, threats of dust devils/ice giants, even after Sensei agreed that this is indeed unrealistic), like, even right now, just because they don't like us calling out on their magic weapons.

Just retcon the Rhino and Hippo to have enough HE charge to damage the dashed tanks.

~5,5 cm HE enough to damage medium armor? Yeah, no, that's not going to happen.

Your side and rear armor is always said to be light or paper-thin. In this sense HE should be enough to pop open a few rivets.

[Sheb]

Why? It would leave your gun's performance exactly as they are now.

[Kot]

Your side and rear armor is always said to be light or paper-thin. In this sense HE should be enough to pop open a few rivets.

T-25 is medium all-around. Yeah, ~5,5 cm of HE isin't going to pop that open.
EDIT:
I am going, don't expect to hear from me in next few hours, the damn thunderstorms drive me crazy.

[10ebbor10]

Option C is basically equivalent to retconning one revise phase away from us. All because of GM oversight.

Not really. It takes this round, which in game means this :

-Armor-Piercing High Explosive (APHE): Armor-piercing shells, with explosives in the rear. The explosives detonate on impact, adding force to the round. Available for tank guns, and bombardiers.

But in real life means this

An armor piercing shell, filled with explosives which detonate on a fuze inside the shell, thus greatly amplifying the damage.

to HEAT.

Clearly, the description and functioning of the round as it's in game (ie, increasing penetration at long range) fits much better with HEAT than with IRL APHE.

Besides, it's not exactly a GM oversight. We called it out before it happened. Saying he didn't know about it would be disingenuous.

Your side and rear armor is always said to be light or paper-thin. In this sense HE should be enough to pop open a few rivets.

What, no ?

Our tank is fully armored with medium armor in every direction. I have no more problems with you taking out our armored cars or tank destroyers with a shot in the back.

I am as antagonistic as they are, I mean come on, they're vaguely insulting us all the time (Also, threats of dust devils/ice giants, even after Sensei agreed that this is indeed unrealistic), like, even right now, just because they don't like us calling out on their magic weapons.

Yes, and I very much like to keep the Moral high ground here.

[Elfeater]

IM fine with C, as it keeps the status-quo, which has been what we are arguing this entire time, and what the GM said we were going to do from the get go.