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[10ebbor10]

Ok, second question. Never mind that, It's clearly noted that the penetration value is for a hollow Charge round.

Given that our armor is so thin, why then can the autocannon not penetrate it? Honestly, 25 mm with an autocannon utilizing steel core ammunition should be a piece of cake.

but it didn't usually blow up)

It shook itself apart after repeated firing, actually.

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On that note, that gun is heavier, has much more recoil, and was designed much later.

[Kot]

You're actually wrong Sensei.
AP in LG40 was horrendously shit. The penetration values you have are for hollow charge (HEAT) rounds.

[Sensei]

If you want to argue further, I'm going to want citation. I'm not sure if it's worth my time either way.

[Taricus]

Thou shalt not annoy the GM about details. I mean, us guys here over in Moskurg are cool with it, but I doubt you want us to get buffed so...

[QuakeIV]

Will you stop vaguely antagonizing the GM?  We will have ice giants roaming through our homelands and destroying our tank factories at this rate...

[Kot]

If you want to argue further, I'm going to want citation. I'm not sure if it's worth my time either way.

Citation for such guns are really hard to come by. It's hard to even get the penetration values of the guns they took the shells from, but I will try my best.

Will you stop vaguely antagonizing the GM?  We will have ice giants roaming through our homelands and destroying our tank factories at this rate...

We're not antagonizing the GM, we're antagonizing Moskurgs and their designs. Or something.

[Andres]

We're not antagonizing the GM, we're antagonizing Moskurgs and their designs. Or something.

You're antagonising the GM by complaining about Moskurg and their designs. You choose what you complain about but not who you antagonise.

[Sheb]

I actually cannot find value for APCBC rounds (which apparently were also fired from the LG40), but yeah, that value is for hollow charge warhead.

[evilcherry]

I think we can just assume the average Moskurgan officer would instruct their soldiers not to use the ineffectual AP or APHE rounds instead of the HE ones.

[Kot]

I think we can just assume the average Moskurgan officer would instruct their soldiers not to use the ineffectual AP or APHE rounds instead of the HE ones.

It's stated that APHE is effective and Sensei considers that Recoiless Guns can kill things with APHE.

[Sheb]

Well, that was the only report of something else than HE or HEAT round being used. So I think you're asking us the impossible Sensei: to find penetration data for a round that wasn't actually used because it sucked. Can we just assume they've been using HE/HEAT round so we can design slat armour of our own if we want?

[Kashyyk]

I get the impression that APHE just works differently in this world to real life. So as i trust Sensei to not give us something that can't be countered, you can probably get away with designing "an armour mod designed to negate APHE rounds" instead of something specific, and he'll give you the counter.

[Sheb]

If that's a thing, then I don't really have an issue.

Or we could start using invicible APHE rounds from outer space ourselves I guess. :p

[10ebbor10]

If you want to argue further, I'm going to want citation. I'm not sure if it's worth my time either way.

Uhm, your very own Source clearly states:

>Hollow charge rounds, same at all ranges:

The data you gave are for hollow charge rounds.

Now, as Kot said, data is hard to come by, but with some common sense and looking at the data surely you must realize that AP being fired from a recoilless rifle is impossible.

5 cm KwK 38 firing a 2 kg AP has a penetration of 46 mm at 500 meter, with a muzzle velocity of 700 m/s. The muzzle velocity of your recoilless rifle is at best half that, meaning 1/4 the kinetic energy. It simply can't penetrate.

Kwk_38

I get the impression that APHE just works differently in this works to real life. So as i trust Sensei to not give us something that can't be countered, you can probably get away with designing "an armour mod designed to negate APHE rounds" instead of something specific, and he'll give you the counter.

Yes, but designing, "A design that lets us win" is boring. At that point you might as well strip out the fluff and just throw opposing die rolls.

[Sheb]

On another note, I just spent one hour reading this old issue of popular mechanic instead of studying becauseof you Sensei. :p