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[Taricus]

Last turn, not this one. Where there was parity in the skies.

[Sensei]

In 1921, Moskurg was going to lose their trains if they didn't get better protection. Now they have some so-so AA capability, and Arstotzkan planes haven't changed much. Therefore, Moskurg train lines hold on (tenuously). That's the primary logic. Also, I always pictured Plane Vs Train battles happening in the desert near the mountains, rather than in the precipitous steep treacherous stormy mountain valleys, which would require some serious barnstorming skills.

[Andres]

serious barnstorming skills.

Arstotzka has much better barnstorming kills than Moskurg! We have mortars so we can use our incendiary rounds to light the barn on fire much more quickly than Moskurg's artillery can. Once the people inside have been smoked out, our wide variety of small arms allows us to shoot at the survivors no matter what range they're at when they come out. Since our uniforms don't come with capes, our uniforms are much less likely to catch on fire if we decide to storm the barn while it's still on fire.

Glory to Arstotzka!

[Ukrainian Ranger]

So, I went to Moskurg thread to see why their recoilless rifle is so kick ass and...

is it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_recoilless_rifle  with a different name? Numbers and description make me think so.

Edit: oh, no, not a clone, Rhino is 2 times lighter while having the same size

[10ebbor10]

Also, more accurate at range.

[Iituem]

So, I went to Moskurg thread to see why their recoilless rifle is so kick ass and...

is it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_recoilless_rifle  with a different name? Numbers and description make me think so.

Edit: oh, no, not a clone, Rhino is 2 times lighter while having the same size

I think you'll find we're in excellent company along with the PRC, then.

[10ebbor10]

It's completely silly though. You simply don't have the explosives, the material, the aerodynamic experience to make it work.

Besides, your weapon shouldn't be effective against our APC's and such anyway. It fires pure HE shells at low velocity. Those can't penetrate the frontal armor.

[Iituem]

It's completely silly though. You simply don't have the explosives, the material, the aerodynamic experience to make it work.

Sure we do.  That's what we spent our Design phase learning instead of how to make steam ships.  Looks like we're not leading the transport industry of tomorrow any more!

[10ebbor10]

All silliness and internal propaganda purposes aside, what you have done now would be the same if we suddenly designed a jet fighter. The technology simply doesn't exist yet to create a weapon with said capabilities.

Also, I'm not normally to complain about metagaming, but this is a bit much.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

M3 Fighter
A monowing aluminium fighter with cantilever wings and a new radial engine armed with a stallion in the nose. Designed to just be plain faster than the AS-19 Fighter, if not more manoeuvrable. Essentially designed purely to swat enemy fighters from the sky before anything can bring fire on it

An all-luminum monoplane with cantilever wings, a new, fuel-injected radial engine, and mounting an AC18 in the centerline firing through the prop-shaft, as well as two 1910s mounted in the wings. It focuses on speed and power, while maintaining a reasonable level of manueverability. It also has hardpoints for mounting a couple 25kg bombs or 90mm rockets.

Almost exactly the same design, with features listed in pretty much the same order.

[Taricus]

Mind you, I actually saw Tryrars halfway through writing my one up, which I was trawling wikipedia for.

[Powder Miner]

I thought we weren't supposed to read each others' threads in the first place.

[evilcherry]

I thought we weren't supposed to read each others' threads in the first place.

Metagaming is indeed frowned of, but I suppose its always legal to peek into them as long as you are not reacting on their designs this turn.

[Sensei]

Oh yeah, the Rhino will not pen frontal armor at medium range. It's most effective in the jungle anyway though.

I'll be out most of the day today so don't expect real updates until the wee hours of the morning, I'll be on mobile sometimes though.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Rhino penetrated my suspension of disbelief from a long range

[Parsely]

With Sensei's permission, I made my own design game based on his! http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=152370.msg6417231#msg6417231 This one's in 1970. Ebbor is all alone in Amerika. He needs friends.