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Re: Arms Race, OOC Thread
« Reply #495 on: August 01, 2015, 05:44:04 pm »

Arztotska denies theft of that design. Note that no attempts at patenting have been done, or even domestic production, which would surely be in metric. All shotguns are battlefield salvage, recovered from fleeing Moskurgian forces.
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« Reply #496 on: August 01, 2015, 06:41:28 pm »

And I think this circular argument neatly demonstrates why this is never going to get resolved in court.
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« Reply #497 on: August 01, 2015, 08:00:48 pm »

And actually quite exemplifies the reasons the conflict started :P
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« Reply #498 on: August 01, 2015, 08:02:26 pm »

This process has pretty much been happening since Moskurg (or was it Arstotzka?) first invented chicken soup.
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« Reply #499 on: August 01, 2015, 08:13:18 pm »

Well obviously it was Arstotzka first. The chickens' feathers would overheat them if they lived in Moskurg. They were kept huddled together and their feathers kept them insulated from the cold. Since Arstotzka had the first chickens and more water to make soup with, Arstotzka was the one that first invented chicken soup (at least on Forenia).

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« Reply #500 on: August 01, 2015, 08:43:44 pm »

 You know, I got a theory about how it all started.

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« Reply #501 on: August 01, 2015, 09:39:48 pm »

The OP mentions the two countries warring forever and the British subjugating the natives of both countries. There was never a third. Also, the idea that Arstotzka is in any way related to Moskurg is blasphemy, heresy, high treason, and completely wrong.
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« Reply #502 on: August 01, 2015, 10:28:01 pm »

Never said there was a third country. Just three brothers.
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« Reply #503 on: August 01, 2015, 10:38:59 pm »

Second paragraph you said the British invaded the three tribes when there were two countries at the time.
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« Reply #504 on: August 01, 2015, 10:43:14 pm »

 A tribe does not a nation make. Honestly, the tribe of booze thieves probably split up to keep the two sides pissed at the other.
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« Reply #505 on: August 01, 2015, 10:44:59 pm »

The OP says they were two countries when the British came. I'm not even sure why I'm arguing about this. My theory is that we've just been at war forever.
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« Reply #506 on: August 02, 2015, 02:57:53 am »

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In fact, Arstotzka and Moskurg have been at war to conquer the entire continent as long as anyone can remember, and as far back as any history book is written. The reasons for this are much debated, but the debates universally end in fisticuffs.
I see it holds true to this day.

1922 Battle Report

Arstotzka's army now contains the following:
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Moskurg's army now contains the following:
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This year, Moskurg designed their first recoilless rifle, the Rhino, an early sort of the weapon which uses a wad fired out of the back of the rifle to balance recoil from the shell. They also improved their T1 Smashers with spaced armor. Arstotzka created a sort of merchant marine ship, the AS-CV22, which is mainly a logistics vehicle but includes an autocannon for defense against air assault. Next year, this means Arstotzka will have 4 ore and 2 oil.

The war in the air generally returns to Arstotzka's favor, their airplanes are more plentiful again. The AS-A19C is also now often fitted with incendiary rounds, which are especially effective against wooden airplanes, as if it needed more firepower. The threat to airplanes from ground fire has improved considerably. Arstotzka's new flak is effective in daylight, especially against Moskurg's slow and low-flying bombers. At night, flares can illuminate bombers briefly, but only in time to aim machine guns. However, Moskurg deploys less Model 2 Hornets this year, so the threat from bombing is reduced altogether.

In the desert, the Arstotzkan armored advance meets new T1 Smashers. New spaced armor reduces the likelihood of a killing blow with the AS-AC18 autocannon, requiring AS-MV21's to get closer or take a careful aimed shot. 7.62mm AP is relatively ineffective against T1 Smashers now, although if a motorcycle is allowed to right up to one they can still get an easy kill. Smashers get more kills against AS-MV21's which are hit by the Bombardier cannon, but this is still uncommon due to its lower accuracy, rate of fire and turning rate. Moskurg bombing runs continue to be effective, but happen less frequently as more of their planes are shot down. The new Rhino recoilless rifle sees use here, Moskurg cavalry troops ride around with it and dismount to fire. In the desert, they take the risk of needing a clear line of sight, well within the effective range of Arstotzkan autocannons. Because they take time to reload, Rhino users generally only get one shot. These soldiers are also not armed with rifles, so are very vulnerable to infantry and motorcycles. Moskurg inflicts many casualties, but Arstotzka manages to keep gaining ground. (Arstotzk 2/4, Moskurg 2/4)

In the mountains, infantry fighting picks up. Arstotzkan soldiers have developed a new tactic: At night, mortars are used to launch flares over Moskurg encampments. Arstotzkan sharpshooters pick off the illuminated enemy soldiers from cover in the darkness. Moskurg soldiers use their recoilless rifles to attack hardened Arstotzkan positions. Both sides become less entrenched, and the M2 Brumby shines again. Without the benefit (usually) of using AS-1910's to suppress charges, Moskurg gains ground. (Moskurg 3/4) Trains shipping to the mountains once again are threatened, but narrowly hold out by virtue of including a couple machine gun cars.

In the jungle, Arstotzka continues their assault with infantry support by armor on roads. Arstotzka no longer has cheap SMG's, but does benefit from their new mortar shells (incendiary rounds are useful against jungle positions). Moskurg (swallowing their ego) makes use of ambush tactics, setting up Rhino recoilless rifles in bushes and blasting advancing AS-MV21's. Despite being dependant on sidearms, Moskurg retains an advantage in close combat, so where they are not successfully suppressed with autocannons or machine guns, they hold fast. Moskurg holds their ground. (Moskurg 3/4, Arstotzka 1/4)

Out in the pacific ocean, both countries have sent spies to examine what I will continue to call a U-boat. The US Navy is protective of their secrets. Each agent successfully retrieves valuable film from the submarine, but are boarded by US Navy cruisers patrolling the area. Tiger Fucker and Hairy Pickle are both captured with the incriminating film. Do not expect to hear from them again.

In the Arstotzkan foundry district, Agent Sandworm climbs a building, jumps a gap across an alley and rappels through a skylight window. Alarms sound, but when guards arrive all they find is broken glass and a missing folder on Aluminium refining.

The American hunting company considers two rifles submitted to them, the Horsekiller and the AS-F14. Both guns are a bit inaccurate, the AS-F14 with its open bolt action and the Horsekiller with being the Horsekiller. At the risk of some damaged collarbones, they choose the Horsekiller and its enormous .60 caliber round. It's not actually as ideal for hunting as a more accurate rifle, but the weapon acquires a reputation for being the manliest rifle a civilian can buy. Moskurg gains an Expense Credit.

In the capitol of Arstotzka and the capitol of Moskurg alike, there are a series of fires. Days later secret police uncover a series of fliers, with slogans like "The War is Futile", "The War is a Tool of Your Oppressors", "Do not volunteer. Do not allow yourself to be conscripted. Do not die for your oppressors' benefit." and so on. It seems there is a bit of a rebel problem.

You may now begin the 1923 design phase.
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Re: Arms Race, OOC Thread
« Reply #507 on: August 02, 2015, 03:30:37 am »

I'm very certain we ordered our spy to do counterespionage, rather than go for the wreck. Anyway, good riddance.

Edit : Nevermind, I see I never explicitedly voted on that.
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« Reply #508 on: August 02, 2015, 03:55:07 am »

Some questions :

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New spaced armor reduces the likelihood of a killing blow with the AS-AC18 autocannon, requiring AS-MV21's to get closer or take a careful aimed shot.

The autocannon is an autocannon. Surely, with it's 600 round per minute firerate, it would simply chew through the spaced armor halfway through the first burst, reducing it's consistency and effectiveness to Swiss cheese?

Not complaining, merely trying to understand why the spaced armor works, so that a countermeasure can be developed. Because as far as I understand it, a sacrificial armor plate (which is what the spaced armor is) should be highly vulnerable to anything with fast firing weaponry.

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In the desert, they take the risk of needing a clear line of sight, well within the effective range of Arstotzkan autocannons. Because they take time to reload, Rhino users generally only get one shot.

I'm pretty sure the Rhino is designed as a single use weapon.
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« Reply #509 on: August 02, 2015, 03:58:16 am »

Well, "reload" in this case means put a new 20-pound tube on a tripod. A horseman might carry a couple.
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