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[Aseaheru]

New Armor Rules
In real life, armor is almost always steel until after world war II. It ranges from 6-25mm on early tanks to around 100mm max, with a greater effective thickness thanks to angling. The stuff normal tanks use is rolled homogenous armor, a type of forged, hardened steel, while you're probably using mild steel so far (something only training versions of tanks are normally made from). Aluminum is lighter, titanium weighs as much as aluminum but is strong like steel, and rubber or cement armor exist as well but are best used as part of a composite. There are a number of alloys to be discovered but I will probably not get into them.

I will establish armor values, which stack from different factors in a way similar to expense. A round striking armor has a penetration value at medium range, with a +1 bonus for close range and a -1 penalty for long range. Armor penetration values will be hidden from you for now. Armor values are as follows:
1) Thin, <10 mm (all measures approximate and used for historical reference)
2) Light, 10-24 mm
3) Medium, 25-50 mm
4) Heavy, 51-100 mm
5) Extra Heavy, 101-150 mm
6) Extreme, more than 150mm. Only historical example I can find is the Maus tank and ironclad ships.

Materials give a bonus to that value. Mild Steel (your current shitty tanks) is -1, RHA is 0. Aluminum is 0 but lighter, Titanium is +1, and composites or more exotic armors may be +1 or higher with various effects on the weight and cost. Good spacing and angling can give a further bonus (which might be wholly or partially negated by APBC rounds or an opponent's good marksmanship).

When building armor, you can specify the thickness and material of the armor in different areas, as well as attempt to research new materials and techniques (you're not getting titanium any time soon though). Right now, extreme armor would be too expensive to build and sink in the mud if you did. Thicker armor also presents an engineering challenge in general; making thick armor is a technology on its own.

[Sensei]

Aluminum armor couldn't possibly outperform our steel, despite it's low grade, unless this armored car has like 30+mms of it, which would make it prohibitively heavy for a four-wheeled vehicle. Aluminum shouldn't be able to stop HMG and autocannon fire.

In terms of comparative armor performance, remember you are firing lead bullets while Arstotzka is using hardened steel when they encounter armor.

[Parsely]

I see.

[andrea]

by the way. When you say that an Allied U-boat sank, who are those allies? the nations that would be called so during WWII? or is something else happening in global politics right now?

[Sensei]

by the way. When you say that an Allied U-boat sank, who are those allies? the nations that would be called so during WWII? or is something else happening in global politics right now?

*rolls dice* US Navy.

[Parsely]

Yeah, the Allies don't exist yet. I think he must mean a submarine rather than a U-boat, since in English that's specifically the name for German subs.

[Iituem]

Spoiler: The Only True News (click to show/hide)

[10ebbor10]

Quite sad that Moskurg has to make up accomplishments.

[Iituem]

And what was that article about 'deciding to withdraw' on the western fronts a few issues of the Arstotzkan War Bulletin ago, hmm? 

[Andres]

And what was that article about 'deciding to withdraw' on the western fronts a few issues of the Arstotzkan War Bulletin ago, hmm? 

The wall of Moskurg corpses lining the Desert and now the Jungle has determined that article was telling the truth.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[10ebbor10]

And what was that article about 'deciding to withdraw' on the western fronts a few issues of the Arstotzkan War Bulletin ago, hmm? 

That was a creative interpretation of the truth.

This is simply made up. Arztotska developed the cargo truck 2 years ago. Claim you refined it, fine (though we all know you didn't).

[Iituem]

Oh, I never claimed we invented the truck first.  Simply that we invented one, and are at the forefront of automotive science.  Creative interpretations of the truth abound.

[Andres]

What's not creative interpretation is you stealing our SMG design and patenting it as your own. Filthy Moskurg scum crap. *came up with idea for SMG*

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Iituem]

A fair point.  Moskurg counter-sues for theft of the sawn-off-shotgun design.  Lawyers are primed and fired to keep the cases mired in red tape for decades to come.

[Andres]

A fair point.  Moskurg counter-sues for theft of the sawn-off-shotgun design.  Lawyers are primed and fired to keep the cases mired in red tape for decades to come.

Military theft is different. You can't sue us for "stealing" "your" design because it was a military theft. You put a patent on our design and that is not allowed.

Glory to Arstotzka.