So let's look at what I actually said.
Teneb
I disliked Teneb's first post. I feel like the explanation of OMGUS when no one asked for one is more there to look like he's being helpful than anything. He's not using it to ask a more than surface level question or to present any of his own thoughts. I also dislike his question toward FallacyofUrist, though I am having trouble articulating why - the tone of it strikes me as "discrediting" rather than "curious," is the best way that I can. He later asks Moonlit what Moonlit's going to do about their trouble finding people suspicious, and then spends a couple of posts insulting roo. That's the sum of his D1 efforts.
His D2 post in which he asks Arcv and FoU a question each and generally posts that he's concerned about losing two townies per night is okay. The vote on Arcv for the in-depth nightkill spec rather than actually looking @ people's behavior is sort of boring, but I'd guess he finds Arcv scummy regardless of his own alignment. He does seem pretty happy to skate though the game and leave it up to everyone else to put actual opinions out there, in general.
I think that putting yourself in a teaching role/someone knowledgeable about the site meta seemingly unnecessarily (as he did in his first post) is a way of looking like you're helpful without actually having to put yourself out there? It's information instead of analysis. I also think that the post he spends making fun of roo and the additional post he spends explaining the joke fits into a pattern of behavior of fluffy posts that allow him to skate by - he's not lurky and blatantly scummy enough to get lynched, but he's not helpful enough to get nightkilled.
I don't think the FoU question you quoted is alignment indicative, as I stated above. The question about FoU from Teneb that pinged for me was:
FoU: Do you think you can tell apart newbie flailing from scum flailing? If so, how? If not, why did you vote for someone who is very much new despite that?
The problem with his activity on both days is not that simple. It's combined with him being active in other games, which makes me think the lurking was strategic. Newer players lurking because they don't know what to say is more null to me.
As for insulting roo, I don't have any experience with LSP, so I can't comment on whether or not it was an insult or not. One post doesn't equal a couple, though.
I hypothesize that logic is directly proportional to lack of noobyness.
Not the case. Roo is certainly not a newbie, but is still the subforum version of LSP.
I'm going to confess I have no clue who or what LSP is.
Lord Slowpoke
I don't know who LSP is either, but the context of the first quote makes it pretty obviously an insult of roo's ability to use logic? My point is that he does spend two entire posts talking about that and not actually contributing anything? Which bugged me even more in the context of him asking Moonlit about what Moonlit was going to do about their lack of reads/knowing what to do.
You are just plain wrong about me being the thing that tipped the Dampe lynch? I started the Teneb wagon of Day 3. As I explained in great detail, I was really frustrated by him replacing out because I felt we were getting nowhere. When he replaced out, I pressure voted Dampe because Dampe had a habit of popping up to do one post at the end of the day, and I wanted to see what his reaction would be to being the top wagon at that point (he would probably actually vote someone else or post something telling, but I guess he just flaked?) I then moved my vote back to Teneb (tieing the lynch) when I noticed Day was in a few hours of ending because I thought Teneb was scummier. I only moved back to Dampe so we wouldn't no lynch, but then I and others voted to extend, and I voted Teneb for the rest of the day. Varee and Doctor are the two that I'm not townreading for role reasons that were most attached to the Dampe lynch.
False. Your first mention of being suspicious of Teneb was at the start of day 3, and you replaced in during day 2.
Uh, no you? I mentioned that I thought he was scummy when talking to and about Arcvasti during Day 2. My priority at the time was more understanding what the fuck was going on then trying to pressure a specific lurker, which you can argue was poor use of my time, but the read was still there. I would've taken basically any lurker counterwagon to Moonlit during D2 since I was leaning town on her, it just happened to be Dampe since someone else had voted for him.
I think that my feelings about Dampe probably come off inconsistent because he's someone I have thought about a lot compared to how much I posted about him? For one thing, the minor mod error made me lean more town on him, and I was voting him mostly to try to get him to do/say something actually alignment indicative. I was both frustrated with him for being the biggest lurker, protective of him because he was the one newbie who never really was given the newbie card, and I kind of had a soft spot for him in general because his posts made me laugh. But I have been laughing to myself on N3 about how I need to avenge Dampe because how much I laughed at his first post made my painstaking notes on D1 worth it. Plus, I was also referring to Moonlit (who I had kinda figured out was a VT or scum and was leaning towards the former before the claim) and fillip (who was a prime suspect D1 and has had random scumreads on him throughout the game.)
I don't think I'm overselling it because people have been suspected a lot in this thread on the basis of "not giving a defense," and giving a defense generally gets the lynch switched off of you (Moonlit may have survived if they hadn't lost their post toward the end of the day.) I also think lynching scum in general is going to be difficult unless they bus, because town would have to be united and correct.
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