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Egan_BW

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Special attack for undead skins
« on: July 07, 2015, 10:13:42 am »

Reanimated Skins should be able to envelop a victim and disguise themselves as a living creature.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2015, 05:48:29 pm »

Doesn't happen much due to the kinda deaths you get with undead, but would be a great feature if it happened much. Maybe we should be able to wear people's skin as a disguise?
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2015, 06:06:01 pm »

I don't think I've ever seen anyone wearing someone else's skin to confirm it, but somehow I don't think that would make for a convincing disguise up close.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2015, 06:14:24 pm »

Against undead or animals perhaps? Can't help but think of that fantastic scene in Princess Mononoke.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2015, 07:06:01 pm »

I don't like the idea of a common undead being able to do that sort of stuff. I'd rather have that sort of behavior be reserved for special creatures like evil weather thralls/husks or maybe some new night creature.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2015, 03:34:07 am »

Skin = uncommon undead.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2015, 04:31:44 am »

Necromancer could equip and control undead skin as an exoskeleton to enhance his melee ability.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2015, 04:09:42 pm »

Skin = uncommon undead.

No no, I meant like the type of undead. The animated corpses that necros bring back are (AFAIK) supposed to resemble the stereotypical, mindless walking corpses you usually associate with zombies. I don't feel that this sort of reanimated creature should have any sort of special ability beyond mindless attacking the living. I like the concept, I just feel it should be reserved for other kinds of undead/unique creatures.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2015, 01:21:19 pm »

Skin = uncommon undead.

No no, I meant like the type of undead. The animated corpses that necros bring back are (AFAIK) supposed to resemble the stereotypical, mindless walking corpses you usually associate with zombies. I don't feel that this sort of reanimated creature should have any sort of special ability beyond mindless attacking the living. I like the concept, I just feel it should be reserved for other kinds of undead/unique creatures.

I agree with Witty.  This isn't a bad idea, but I think I would associate it with night trolls, or similar intelligent foes, rather than the standard animated dead. 

Doesn't happen much due to the kinda deaths you get with undead, but would be a great feature if it happened much. Maybe we should be able to wear people's skin as a disguise?
I don't think I've ever seen anyone wearing someone else's skin to confirm it, but somehow I don't think that would make for a convincing disguise up close.
Against undead or animals perhaps?

What I understand of how the undead [OPPOSED_TO_LIFE] token works seems to indicate that a disguise of this sort would not be effective. 

It might work on animals.  Supposedly (I'm not sure how reliable my source was on this, so take this with a grain of salt) when deer smell wolves and carrion coming from the same direction, they assume the wolves are scavenging the kill, and therefore not stalking them, so they become less alert.  A human hunter (or dwarf, or whatever else) might be able to exploit this, but the disguise is against scent, not vision. 
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2015, 12:16:09 pm »

How do even disguise a skin by wrapping it on the outside of something? You'd just make that thing look undead, and even then only when it was the same species.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2015, 02:24:53 pm »

I like the idea of something that takes over a host but maintains the old identity, kind of how vampires work at the moment.  I'm just thinking more of a Go'a'uld internal thing than an external wrapping.  Once discovered, it might hulk out and leave behind any pretense of hiding... or it might decide to off the discoverer in private to maintain the ruse.
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2015, 07:55:50 pm »

I concur with the idea of skin lacking the intelligence & muscular control to envelop something for the purposes of anything like a disguise. What I do like, though, is the idea of a necromancer personally cobbling bits of different corpses together, into a Frankenstein-esqe conglomeration of horror . . . or even using his necromantic powers to add body parts to himself. His liver is hemorrhaging blood? Perform a transplant on the fly! Tired of being super-vulnerable once you get spotted? Graft on 6 extra arms and fight back!
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Re: Special attack for undead skins
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2015, 11:13:58 pm »

His liver is hemorrhaging blood? Perform a transplant on the fly!
I read that as using a fly liver for the transplant. I mean, I wouldn't put it past a dwarf. You know how they love their prepared bumblebee brains and such.
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