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[Egan_BW]

The human brain loves patterns, even where none exist. Patterns make it required to process less by making assumptions. Racism/sexism/bigotry of any sort is just the manifestation of this onto other people. If it didn't do this, we would all lose our minds due to having to not make any assumptions about anything at all ever, because nothing would ever fit into a pattern. This would obviously be bad, since recognizing mistakes would effectively be impossible. As a result, there will always be biases in people. Always. The only thing you can do is recognizing these biases and removing them in yourself.

And then go mad and starve to death because we were too busy thinking about other people to feed ourselves.
Meaning the only way to rid ourselves of bias is to feed ourselves through tubes.

[Loud Whispers]

A series of rubes

[Bohandas]

Sufficient crossbreeding would also stamp out cultural differences between the races as well.

Really?

Provided that the children were raised by both parents as a couple. They'd then acquire a mix of the learned traits traits of both cultures. Do this everywhere for a few generations and the lines between cultures will erode and eventually disappear.

Another thing, that you can do right now even if you're not raising children in an interracial couple, that could help erode the lines between cultures is for more people to deliberately assume the clothing styles and customs of cultures other than the one(s) they were born into. We need more weeaboos, more wiggers and more oreos; we need more white rappers and more black golfers; but most importantly of all we need a lot more people people with mannerisms and affectations mixed and matched from several different cultures.

[Tiruin]

I'm intrigued by the discussion here but...I'm really wondering what the problem is; by that, I mean, I really get the feeling that the root of the problem is very dislocated.

I've been thinking a lot about race issues lately, with all the race-related shootings and violence in the (American) media lately. As always, I've come to the conclusion that racism will always be around...[...]

As in, poking at the exactness of the conclusion.

Racism is a term to describe...how you say, "attitude" towards a particular group of people. An idea of 'I'm better than you', though applied to a whole GROUP of people who look the same {so the belief can apply to all of them...because they look the same or several other physical characteristics are different}. The lack of acceptance or the outward look onto others in a negative way, by virtue of their race (mainly, physical characteristics implying some sort of attitude back onto the observer; meaning: attributing traits or characteristics to a race, then treating everyone who looks like what this 'race' is described as, as the same people who will act the same [when its not]). While my wording isn't that succinct or holistic, I'd like to point out that it...will not always be around. Or, like, it's not a common everyday thing; its a construct of attitude. The understanding or method of reasoning is what will always be around, and this is easily fought if the negative perpetuations of a certain race is countered by realism. There are people who don't judge by race, inherently or in thought [and by that, I mean, treating others who have very similar characteristics under the same standard of interaction]. And in my observations where I see racism being practiced, its an incomplete presentation of a group of people [usually when the 'racist' doesn't really know the people or their experiences with these people have been mainly negative that they may not get mere fact that 'this person is pretty much like me'. Or a ton other things which gives a pretty incomplete idea.]

Spoiler: Just reminds me of this... (click to show/hide)

Like, if another person wasn't seen as lesser or lower, or degraded in whatever degree or scale to the observer, then the observer wouldn't act towards them in a 'bad' way, and then they'd be more aware, so to speak...and then I notice that's what I meant by 'accepting' but didn't mention it up there. Argh.

I'm messy with my words; apologies ahead.

[Sheb]

Now that's a bit silly and on the opposit end of the spectrum of racist.

There are different races and there are differences between races, some big some small, but they do exist, and they aren't all skin deep (by that I don't mean the stereotypical behaviour shit, I'm thinking genetics and physionomy (is that a word?)). But what needs to be remembered is that we're all god damn people and that's all that matters. Every single one of us with a different set of modifiers and stats and what have you, but stripped down to our core we're still the shitty little animal we've always been, no matter how much we pile on to hide that from others and ourselves.

Well, the think is the "race" we thinks off have really little to do with genetics. There is more diversity within the "black" race than between whites, asians and native americans (hardly surprising, since the human species come from Africa). Hispanics are a race in the US, but no in the EU. Etc etc...

[Bohandas]

Now that's a bit silly and on the opposit end of the spectrum of racist.

There are different races and there are differences between races, some big some small, but they do exist, and they aren't all skin deep (by that I don't mean the stereotypical behaviour shit, I'm thinking genetics and physionomy (is that a word?)). But what needs to be remembered is that we're all god damn people and that's all that matters. Every single one of us with a different set of modifiers and stats and what have you, but stripped down to our core we're still the shitty little animal we've always been, no matter how much we pile on to hide that from others and ourselves.

Well, the think is the "race" we thinks off have really little to do with genetics. There is more diversity within the "black" race than between whites, asians and native americans (hardly surprising, since the human species come from Africa). Hispanics are a race in the US, but no in the EU. Etc etc...

No, it has to do with genetics; that's why white couples have white children, black couples have black children, and asian couples have asian children. It's just that culture and ethnicity got all mixed up with it, muddying the waters.

EDIT:
The seeming greater diversity of black people as opposed to white people is likely a result of mere ethnicities being counted as races, as in your example where hispanics are sometimes counted as a separate race from whites, creating the racial equivalent of the vote getting split in an election.

[Bohandas]

Oh yeah, and I also forgot about the races of people from cultures that still find racemixing taboo

I want to go on record here and say that I support strongarming cultures like that into finding mates of other ethnicities.

...like in Israel,

And shame on the Israelis for having a tradition like that; That seems rather hypocritical for a country founded by survivors and refugees of the Holocaust

[Sheb]

Well, yes and now. You parents' race determine which category you fall in (although with some weird rules, like the fact that the child of a black and a white parent will be black), but the existence and limits of the categories themselves are determined by culture.

That's why European would by and large consider hispanics white (unlike Americans). On the other hand, we woulld by and large consider Turks and Arabs as part of another race, while they'd be caucasian in the US. It's really tied to the social history of the place: a former flatmate of mine who comes from Charleroi (about 40km from my own place) insisted that Italians weren't white. You won't be surprised that Charleroi saw a large influct of Italian immigrants, whereas my place did not.

Again, if race were a faithful representation of genetic diversity rather than a social construct, we'd have half a dozen "black" races, and one "rest of the world" race. We do not, because race are a social construct, even though we apply pseudo-genetic rules when determining which race someone belongs to.

[Bohandas]

That's why European would by and large consider hispanics white (unlike Americans). On the other hand, we woulld by and large consider Turks and Arabs as part of another race, while they'd be caucasian in the US.

I disagree with considering either a different race.

We don't need more than four racial designations at most, the whites, the blacks, the orientals or the native americans; and it's arguable that the orientals could be folded into the whites and/or the native americans into the orientals.

[Loud Whispers]

Provided that the children were raised by both parents as a couple. They'd then acquire a mix of the learned traits traits of both cultures. Do this everywhere for a few generations and the lines between cultures will erode and eventually disappear.

Not if one race is phenotypically stronger, same goes with culture.

We need more weeaboos, more wiggers and more oreos; we need more white rappers and more black golfers; but most importantly of all we need a lot more people people with mannerisms and affectations mixed and matched from several different cultures.

This is why America is a hideous cancer that must be excised from the planet

You know I love you Murrica but this is pure devastation

The seeming greater diversity of black people as opposed to white people is likely a result of mere ethnicities being counted as races, as in your example where hispanics are sometimes counted as a separate race from whites, creating the racial equivalent of the vote getting split in an election.

Indeed, contrast this with a hundred years ago when you were considered mixed race if your mother was a Dutchwoman and your father a Frenchman

I want to go on record here and say that I support strongarming cultures like that into finding mates of other ethnicities.
And shame on the Israelis for having a tradition like that; That seems rather hypocritical for a country founded by survivors and refugees of the Holocaust

Some would consider forcing global minorities into racemixing just to wipe out what's left of people like the Jews, Aborigines and Native Americans seems like a pretty big dick move - hypocritical, maybe, but definitely purposeful

[Bohandas]

Some would consider forcing global minorities into racemixing just to wipe out what's left of people like the Jews, Aborigines and Native Americans seems like a pretty big dick move - hypocritical, maybe, but definitely purposeful

Well this would be as part of a program to eventually not have any more pure specimens of any race.

[scrdest]

Some would consider forcing global minorities into racemixing just to wipe out what's left of people like the Jews, Aborigines and Native Americans seems like a pretty big dick move - hypocritical, maybe, but definitely purposeful

Well this would be as part of a program to eventually not have any more pure specimens of any race.

I don't think pure specimens of any race are even a thing now.

[Loud Whispers]

Some would consider forcing global minorities into racemixing just to wipe out what's left of people like the Jews, Aborigines and Native Americans seems like a pretty big dick move - hypocritical, maybe, but definitely purposeful

Well this would be as part of a program to eventually not have any more pure specimens of any race.

That's pretty creepy m9

[Helgoland]

Some would consider forcing global minorities into racemixing just to wipe out what's left of people like the Jews, Aborigines and Native Americans seems like a pretty big dick move - hypocritical, maybe, but definitely purposeful

Well this would be as part of a program to eventually not have any more pure specimens of any race.

I don't think pure specimens of any race are even a thing now.

Hey, I for one am surprisingly aryan. Well, minus the muscle mass and national socialist ideology, but it's still fairly close.

[Levi]

I hope not, I rather like diversity.