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[Cheeetar]

Unvote Flabort- Flabort, I want to see you pursuing a case on somebody. No more of this vote unvote stuff, enough has happened by now that you should be suspicious of somebody. Consider this a warning that I've got my tiny, beady eyes on you.

Cheeetar

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Dorsidwarf, at what point do you consider a person scummy enough to lynch on Day 1?
Lenglon, would you prefer to face a typical scum team, a large amount of unaligned serial killers, or a cult? Why?

NQT
Unvote
Shakerag

Unprompted wacky shenanigans, or required by his role? Who cares.

I must comment that both your questions answers would be helpful to scum.

Lenglon: Can you elaborate further on your decision?

Inspect with %chance kill. use?

Convoluted circumstances aside, yes. The chances are I'm inspecting somebody I am already suspicious of, in which case targeting them with a vigilante-esque kill is acceptable.

Still digging deeper for answers that could help scum. It sounds almost like you are a serial killer fishing for this information.

Everyone else If you had to daykill someone right now, who would you kill?

Oh, whoops- didn't notice this question. I'm actually fairly uncertain about this. I would feel bad about it, but I'd probably daykill the newer players and people I haven't played much with before because I don't know how they play and would find it harder to read them. This would likely end up being Lenglon or blackmagechill- I don't recall playing with them before.

Fairly standard answer.

Cheeetar

ToonyMan

Inspect Jail with %chance kill. use?

Only in the circumstances I would be using the jail as a roleblock- I wouldn't use it in cases I might otherwise use a jail (such as to protect people I thought were valuable to town).

Uuuum... OMGUS much?

Cheeetar:  Since Jim isn't with us, do you feel like you're going to get boned by bullshit mechanics?

I'm missing what you're referring to- the first statement doesn't lead into the question very well to me. Do I think I'm going to get boned by bullshit mechanics: Not this time I don't think. Unless it's somebody else's bullshit mechanics.

I find it strange that you are confident that you wont be affected by "cow poop" mechanics.

Unvote ToonyMan.
Flabort- somebody actioned you. How do you know, and what do you know of the intended/actual effect of the action?

Cheeetar:

Cheeetar:  Since Jim isn't with us, do you feel like you're going to get boned by bullshit mechanics?

I'm missing what you're referring to- the first statement doesn't lead into the question very well to me. Do I think I'm going to get boned by bullshit mechanics: Not this time I don't think. Unless it's somebody else's bullshit mechanics.

As I recall (I could be wrong; my memory is failing in my old age), Jim would complain about bullshit mechanics and getting screwed by them.  He's not here, therefore I decided to arbitrarily question you about it.
So what do you figure your odds of getting screwed by bullshit mechanics are?

Low.

Tiruin: Why're you out to kill us all with your sneaky plane-destroying ways?

Dorsidwarf, why is this the question you chose to add pressure to with a vote?

Everyone else If you had to daykill someone right now, who would you kill?

Oh, whoops- didn't notice this question. I'm actually fairly uncertain about this. I would feel bad about it, but I'd probably daykill the newer players and people I haven't played much with before because I don't know how they play and would find it harder to read them. This would likely end up being Lenglon or blackmagechill- I don't recall playing with them before.

So far there's lots of variety to this question. Interesting answer.
What do you think of the players you've played with before?

In this game specifically? They're cool dudes/ttes, by and large. In general? I've played with too many different people to try to quantify.

Still continuing role fishing. And you remain confident in your cow poop mechanic avoidance.

Why do you assume that they can only use it once per day phase?

Also- whoever stole it, you should own up to it.

Okay, you are like seriously role-fishing now.

Origamiscienceguy, what motivated the fake post restriction?

Blackmagechill, you didn't even wait for me to respond to your vote before switching to somebody else. Put a little conviction in.

They should own up to stealing a random vote because if they use it it's gonna be visible anyway. If they're not going to use it, then it's just taking somebody else's vote away- more likely to be useful to scum than town if targeted at a random person.
Basically (probably) only scum would have reason to be secretive about stealing votes on the first day.

autistic

Not cool, dude. Tone it down.

I disagree on your vote-stealing stance. If the power is to just delete that person's vote, then the only person who really has a reason to use it day 1 is scum... who isn't going to own up. I find it more likely that it is a vote steal which is useful to a town member because it has a chance of taking a scum vote away while never leaving the town down a vote. And if scum has it, they wont own up anyways. Seriously role fishy.

Cheeetar:You're at least putting in an effort, and I'm still thinking in terms of pressure votes. OSG's previous posts have contributed literally zero to the conversation, whereas you've had suspicions and questions the whole time. And are you sure it'll show up as them having two votes? Not playing is the biggest tell there is.

The italicised statement seems like a post restriction in how ominous and out of place it is. I don't think it will show until people use it- but somebody who stole it to not use it are most likely scum. Ergo, town should claim the steal now rather than later when they use it.

What I mentioned earlier. Continuing your role fishing. And that's where you end.

Summary: EXTREMELY role-fishy the entire game with questions and demands that would seem to help serial killers the most. Although they certainly would help scum too. I think you are worth voting for, but I'll wait until I have read everybody else.

Pfffft. OSG, if you think I'm worth voting for because of all my 'rolefishing', just do it. Jeeze. In fact- why aren't you voting for me? Your reads post presents me as making an immense amount of rolefishing questions, yet you don't think you should vote for me until you look at everyone else. Why is that?

Everybody: Here's a solution to NQT saying 'lynch me or Persus13'- don't do either. Just don't lynch them. NQT's obviously trying some sort of wacky gambit (I thought better of him!) and Persus13 may or may not be scum but we should base that off what he's posting and not what NQT says. Lynching either would be cutting the gordian knot, but it'd also waste a day and this is a knot we don't know if we need undone just now.

[Tiruin]

EVERYBODY
Yes, I mean you too

I want Persus dead today. I'm not giving you any more reason than that. Either you lynch me, or you lynch Persus. Make your decision. Who do you trust?

There can only be one.

@_@
Err, NQT, do note that despite the actions and interactions you're displaying now...note that some people (well, me, as I can only speak for myself here ._.) do...and would pretty much understand you because of your disclaimer of intent.

One of things I've decided to trial out in this game is Secret Doctrine. My rationale for voting and my list of suspicions is best kept hidden to begin with, to avoid tipping off the scum. I'll be moving in mysterious ways. I may explain myself in later days.

On that note, let's lynch Persus13.

Don't be afraid to sheep my vote, it's golden.

Which I believe you're acting as such in order to get pretty much everyone's interaction with how you'd act in turn (when I pretty much believe such a gesture of intent is pretty town-y. Or you're crazy, silly, awesome, and a third-party, but that's still not warranting a point of vote from me :v)

Though what really pokes me is the feel of 'omg NQT is lyncher' by how you singled out any particular person (not of any significant merit in my eye, due to how early it is), aaaand...well, the follow-up isn't that polished (if its merely an interaction-hook), but it is very intriguing.

I just came back from camping! I was hiking 87 miles with some friends, camping along the way. It was great! No mosquitoes though, because I live in a civilised country.

*HISS* :I

Spoiler:  I: (click to show/hide)

...Mosquitos can breed in open creeks and brooks y'know.
(I mean dear goodness, I stayed in a Hotel once because GLORIOUS FAMILY VACATION, which...had the benefit of being near a river. Which had a dining area over said river.

Which had a ton of bug-zapper devices all round, lighting up the place in violet (which they capitulated on and used violet lighting {ie Normal lighting with violet shaders}.
But then... so many mosquitos. Gah.

Civiiilized. >_>

Err, to borrow words on what I think of ya:

NQT's thing feels like NQT, not a jester version of him.

I don't think JesterNQT. I think 'Plainclothes Newbie Cop-Detective Man, but very intriguing that it isn't apparently obvious in the first place!'

This shoud've been posted hours ago. Then I realize I got PPE'd after shifting to a new tab. Hooray.

Will get real post soonish.

[Cheeetar]

NQT's thing feels like NQT, not a jester version of him.

I don't think JesterNQT. I think 'Plainclothes Newbie Cop-Detective Man, but very intriguing that it isn't apparently obvious in the first place!'

Tiruin, why are you as town comfortable revealing to everybody that you think NQT is a detective?

[flabort]

Unvote Flabort- Flabort, I want to see you pursuing a case on somebody. No more of this vote unvote stuff, enough has happened by now that you should be suspicious of somebody. Consider this a warning that I've got my tiny, beady eyes on you.

OK, I can leave my vote on NQT to please you and show my name on the list, but I don't have a vote right now.

To clarify: my last vote-unvote was not for the purposes of my initial vote-unvotes, the very last one was because I don't actually have a vote right now.


I did say who and why I am suspicious of in my last post in this thread.

And why are your eyes so tiny and beady? Are you a penguin or stuffed animal or something? A stuffed penguin? No, wait, a pocket cock. Seriously, though, don't tell me, I don't want to be accused with fishing again!

[Tiruin]

NQT's thing feels like NQT, not a jester version of him.

I don't think JesterNQT. I think 'Plainclothes Newbie Cop-Detective Man, but very intriguing that it isn't apparently obvious in the first place!'

Tiruin, why are you as town comfortable revealing to everybody that you think NQT is a detective?

Oh! Sorry for that. It's an analogy and not a Mafia-originated impression. Analogy as in I think he's busy checking reactions and interpretations (and maybe just being silly because his role may be pretty silly too).
I don't think he's a detective as in literally a detective. I used an analogy to describe his attitude (which it seems didn't come off well here).

[Jack A T]

TheDarkStar: My questions.  Answer them.

OSG: Nobody wants to see post-by-post wall analysis.  You made a formatting error, by the way, shoving flabort and Dorsidwarf's names into the Asmoth spoiler.
Regarding the comments on BMC's replacement request, it is a coincidence.  We do not question claims about offline problems.

What do you consider to be the good points Deus brought up in the second-to-last quoted post in his section?

I'm the #1 unlynchable NQT
I'm the exception to the appeal to authority
Persus is the worstest and that is a fact
If it wasn't then you wouldn't be hearing this rap

NQT: This hurts even in text form.

As for Persus13 v. NQT...

*Persus13's behaviour so far is, aside from the lack of questions, pretty much normal for town him, based on a look back through his other recent games.  I do want to hear from him about the lack of questions, and I await his answer.

*You don't seem like a Jester.  You do seem like you, town or scum.  You are the sort of person who, as town, would pull out a plan like the Excessively Secret Doctrine and Thunderdome.  You are also the sort of person who, as scum, would bank on the whole "scum me wouldn't be so reckless" thing to get away with getting the pro-scum aspects of the Doctrine.  Still, the high risk does give you a slight towniness boost.

If I had to pick between the two for a lynch, I'd pick Persus13, but neither is great even by D1 standards.  Still, I've been writing Mafia posts for several hours now, it's late, and I've got a lot of work to do tomorrow.

[origamiscienceguy]

Unvote Flabort- Flabort, I want to see you pursuing a case on somebody. No more of this vote unvote stuff, enough has happened by now that you should be suspicious of somebody. Consider this a warning that I've got my tiny, beady eyes on you.

Cheeetar

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Dorsidwarf, at what point do you consider a person scummy enough to lynch on Day 1?
Lenglon, would you prefer to face a typical scum team, a large amount of unaligned serial killers, or a cult? Why?

NQT
Unvote
Shakerag

Unprompted wacky shenanigans, or required by his role? Who cares.

I must comment that both your questions answers would be helpful to scum.

Lenglon: Can you elaborate further on your decision?

Inspect with %chance kill. use?

Convoluted circumstances aside, yes. The chances are I'm inspecting somebody I am already suspicious of, in which case targeting them with a vigilante-esque kill is acceptable.

Still digging deeper for answers that could help scum. It sounds almost like you are a serial killer fishing for this information.

Everyone else If you had to daykill someone right now, who would you kill?

Oh, whoops- didn't notice this question. I'm actually fairly uncertain about this. I would feel bad about it, but I'd probably daykill the newer players and people I haven't played much with before because I don't know how they play and would find it harder to read them. This would likely end up being Lenglon or blackmagechill- I don't recall playing with them before.

Fairly standard answer.

Cheeetar

ToonyMan

Inspect Jail with %chance kill. use?

Only in the circumstances I would be using the jail as a roleblock- I wouldn't use it in cases I might otherwise use a jail (such as to protect people I thought were valuable to town).

Uuuum... OMGUS much?

Cheeetar:  Since Jim isn't with us, do you feel like you're going to get boned by bullshit mechanics?

I'm missing what you're referring to- the first statement doesn't lead into the question very well to me. Do I think I'm going to get boned by bullshit mechanics: Not this time I don't think. Unless it's somebody else's bullshit mechanics.

I find it strange that you are confident that you wont be affected by "cow poop" mechanics.

Unvote ToonyMan.
Flabort- somebody actioned you. How do you know, and what do you know of the intended/actual effect of the action?

Cheeetar:

Cheeetar:  Since Jim isn't with us, do you feel like you're going to get boned by bullshit mechanics?

I'm missing what you're referring to- the first statement doesn't lead into the question very well to me. Do I think I'm going to get boned by bullshit mechanics: Not this time I don't think. Unless it's somebody else's bullshit mechanics.

As I recall (I could be wrong; my memory is failing in my old age), Jim would complain about bullshit mechanics and getting screwed by them.  He's not here, therefore I decided to arbitrarily question you about it.
So what do you figure your odds of getting screwed by bullshit mechanics are?

Low.

Tiruin: Why're you out to kill us all with your sneaky plane-destroying ways?

Dorsidwarf, why is this the question you chose to add pressure to with a vote?

Everyone else If you had to daykill someone right now, who would you kill?

Oh, whoops- didn't notice this question. I'm actually fairly uncertain about this. I would feel bad about it, but I'd probably daykill the newer players and people I haven't played much with before because I don't know how they play and would find it harder to read them. This would likely end up being Lenglon or blackmagechill- I don't recall playing with them before.

So far there's lots of variety to this question. Interesting answer.
What do you think of the players you've played with before?

In this game specifically? They're cool dudes/ttes, by and large. In general? I've played with too many different people to try to quantify.

Still continuing role fishing. And you remain confident in your cow poop mechanic avoidance.

Why do you assume that they can only use it once per day phase?

Also- whoever stole it, you should own up to it.

Okay, you are like seriously role-fishing now.

Origamiscienceguy, what motivated the fake post restriction?

Blackmagechill, you didn't even wait for me to respond to your vote before switching to somebody else. Put a little conviction in.

They should own up to stealing a random vote because if they use it it's gonna be visible anyway. If they're not going to use it, then it's just taking somebody else's vote away- more likely to be useful to scum than town if targeted at a random person.
Basically (probably) only scum would have reason to be secretive about stealing votes on the first day.

autistic

Not cool, dude. Tone it down.

I disagree on your vote-stealing stance. If the power is to just delete that person's vote, then the only person who really has a reason to use it day 1 is scum... who isn't going to own up. I find it more likely that it is a vote steal which is useful to a town member because it has a chance of taking a scum vote away while never leaving the town down a vote. And if scum has it, they wont own up anyways. Seriously role fishy.

Cheeetar:You're at least putting in an effort, and I'm still thinking in terms of pressure votes. OSG's previous posts have contributed literally zero to the conversation, whereas you've had suspicions and questions the whole time. And are you sure it'll show up as them having two votes? Not playing is the biggest tell there is.

The italicised statement seems like a post restriction in how ominous and out of place it is. I don't think it will show until people use it- but somebody who stole it to not use it are most likely scum. Ergo, town should claim the steal now rather than later when they use it.

What I mentioned earlier. Continuing your role fishing. And that's where you end.

Summary: EXTREMELY role-fishy the entire game with questions and demands that would seem to help serial killers the most. Although they certainly would help scum too. I think you are worth voting for, but I'll wait until I have read everybody else.

Pfffft. OSG, if you think I'm worth voting for because of all my 'rolefishing', just do it. Jeeze. In fact- why aren't you voting for me? Your reads post presents me as making an immense amount of rolefishing questions, yet you don't think you should vote for me until you look at everyone else. Why is that?

Everybody: Here's a solution to NQT saying 'lynch me or Persus13'- don't do either. Just don't lynch them. NQT's obviously trying some sort of wacky gambit (I thought better of him!) and Persus13 may or may not be scum but we should base that off what he's posting and not what NQT says. Lynching either would be cutting the gordian knot, but it'd also waste a day and this is a knot we don't know if we need undone just now.

uuum... to see if there is anyone else worth voting for more than you... to see if your questions were possible justified... etc. geez, just give me more time.

[Cheeetar]

Hey OSG, what questions do you want me to justify and why? Make this simple for me, the person that is 'worth voting for' but that you are somehow too timid to actually vote for.

[origamiscienceguy]

@Jack
I am sort of just marking down subconscious comments on their activity. My read on them is in the summary area. If you don't want that, I could just do the reads I suppose.
I wasn't planning on voting BMC, that was just what I was thinking.
I am refering th Deus Asmoth's theories about what is going on between NQT and Persues.

[Persus13]

I have almost no motivation to play this game right now and am seriously considering replacing out. I have the time to play, I just don't have anything really motivating me. I don't see anything weird or scummy, partly because everyone's distracted with NQT, and I can't defend myself against the one person who is attacking me.

TDS: Why have you been so aggressive against NQT and defending me in all this? I feel like you have a stake in this when you shouldn't, really.

[TheDarkStar]

I have almost no motivation to play this game right now and am seriously considering replacing out. I have the time to play, I just don't have anything really motivating me. I don't see anything weird or scummy, partly because everyone's distracted with NQT, and I can't defend myself against the one person who is attacking me.

TDS: Why have you been so aggressive against NQT and defending me in all this? I feel like you have a stake in this when you shouldn't, really.

What makes you think that? At the time NQT requested your lynch, you had almost no content and I didn't think that NQT could have formed a solid case on you already. I also find NQT's tactic scummy. I'm about to go over the things I've missed over the weekend, though, so I'll look at everyone's more recent posts.

[ToonyMan]

Where have I been? Been busy this weekend and today, probably can write something tonight.

[origamiscienceguy]

I actually have absolutely no time today. (or at least, very little) I think I will vote for Cheeter for is unceasing attempts at role fishing.

[Cheeetar]

So all the talk about looking at other people was for nothing and you've decided to ignore the questions I asked you, OSG?

[origamiscienceguy]

Unvote Flabort- Flabort, I want to see you pursuing a case on somebody. No more of this vote unvote stuff, enough has happened by now that you should be suspicious of somebody. Consider this a warning that I've got my tiny, beady eyes on you.

Cheeetar

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Dorsidwarf, at what point do you consider a person scummy enough to lynch on Day 1?
Lenglon, would you prefer to face a typical scum team, a large amount of unaligned serial killers, or a cult? Why?

NQT
Unvote
Shakerag

Unprompted wacky shenanigans, or required by his role? Who cares.

I must comment that both your questions answers would be helpful to scum.

Lenglon: Can you elaborate further on your decision?

Inspect with %chance kill. use?

Convoluted circumstances aside, yes. The chances are I'm inspecting somebody I am already suspicious of, in which case targeting them with a vigilante-esque kill is acceptable.

Still digging deeper for answers that could help scum. It sounds almost like you are a serial killer fishing for this information.

Everyone else If you had to daykill someone right now, who would you kill?

Oh, whoops- didn't notice this question. I'm actually fairly uncertain about this. I would feel bad about it, but I'd probably daykill the newer players and people I haven't played much with before because I don't know how they play and would find it harder to read them. This would likely end up being Lenglon or blackmagechill- I don't recall playing with them before.

Fairly standard answer.

Cheeetar

ToonyMan

Inspect Jail with %chance kill. use?

Only in the circumstances I would be using the jail as a roleblock- I wouldn't use it in cases I might otherwise use a jail (such as to protect people I thought were valuable to town).

Uuuum... OMGUS much?

Cheeetar:  Since Jim isn't with us, do you feel like you're going to get boned by bullshit mechanics?

I'm missing what you're referring to- the first statement doesn't lead into the question very well to me. Do I think I'm going to get boned by bullshit mechanics: Not this time I don't think. Unless it's somebody else's bullshit mechanics.

I find it strange that you are confident that you wont be affected by "cow poop" mechanics.

Unvote ToonyMan.
Flabort- somebody actioned you. How do you know, and what do you know of the intended/actual effect of the action?

Cheeetar:

Cheeetar:  Since Jim isn't with us, do you feel like you're going to get boned by bullshit mechanics?

I'm missing what you're referring to- the first statement doesn't lead into the question very well to me. Do I think I'm going to get boned by bullshit mechanics: Not this time I don't think. Unless it's somebody else's bullshit mechanics.

As I recall (I could be wrong; my memory is failing in my old age), Jim would complain about bullshit mechanics and getting screwed by them.  He's not here, therefore I decided to arbitrarily question you about it.
So what do you figure your odds of getting screwed by bullshit mechanics are?

Low.

Tiruin: Why're you out to kill us all with your sneaky plane-destroying ways?

Dorsidwarf, why is this the question you chose to add pressure to with a vote?

Everyone else If you had to daykill someone right now, who would you kill?

Oh, whoops- didn't notice this question. I'm actually fairly uncertain about this. I would feel bad about it, but I'd probably daykill the newer players and people I haven't played much with before because I don't know how they play and would find it harder to read them. This would likely end up being Lenglon or blackmagechill- I don't recall playing with them before.

So far there's lots of variety to this question. Interesting answer.
What do you think of the players you've played with before?

In this game specifically? They're cool dudes/ttes, by and large. In general? I've played with too many different people to try to quantify.

Still continuing role fishing. And you remain confident in your cow poop mechanic avoidance.

Why do you assume that they can only use it once per day phase?

Also- whoever stole it, you should own up to it.

Okay, you are like seriously role-fishing now.

Origamiscienceguy, what motivated the fake post restriction?

Blackmagechill, you didn't even wait for me to respond to your vote before switching to somebody else. Put a little conviction in.

They should own up to stealing a random vote because if they use it it's gonna be visible anyway. If they're not going to use it, then it's just taking somebody else's vote away- more likely to be useful to scum than town if targeted at a random person.
Basically (probably) only scum would have reason to be secretive about stealing votes on the first day.

autistic

Not cool, dude. Tone it down.

I disagree on your vote-stealing stance. If the power is to just delete that person's vote, then the only person who really has a reason to use it day 1 is scum... who isn't going to own up. I find it more likely that it is a vote steal which is useful to a town member because it has a chance of taking a scum vote away while never leaving the town down a vote. And if scum has it, they wont own up anyways. Seriously role fishy.

Cheeetar:You're at least putting in an effort, and I'm still thinking in terms of pressure votes. OSG's previous posts have contributed literally zero to the conversation, whereas you've had suspicions and questions the whole time. And are you sure it'll show up as them having two votes? Not playing is the biggest tell there is.

The italicised statement seems like a post restriction in how ominous and out of place it is. I don't think it will show until people use it- but somebody who stole it to not use it are most likely scum. Ergo, town should claim the steal now rather than later when they use it.

What I mentioned earlier. Continuing your role fishing. And that's where you end.

Summary: EXTREMELY role-fishy the entire game with questions and demands that would seem to help serial killers the most. Although they certainly would help scum too. I think you are worth voting for, but I'll wait until I have read everybody else.

Pfffft. OSG, if you think I'm worth voting for because of all my 'rolefishing', just do it. Jeeze. In fact- why aren't you voting for me? Your reads post presents me as making an immense amount of rolefishing questions, yet you don't think you should vote for me until you look at everyone else. Why is that?

Everybody: Here's a solution to NQT saying 'lynch me or Persus13'- don't do either. Just don't lynch them. NQT's obviously trying some sort of wacky gambit (I thought better of him!) and Persus13 may or may not be scum but we should base that off what he's posting and not what NQT says. Lynching either would be cutting the gordian knot, but it'd also waste a day and this is a knot we don't know if we need undone just now.

uuum... to see if there is anyone else worth voting for more than you... to see if your questions were possible justified... etc. geez, just give me more time.

these answers?