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[Flying Dice]

How about they contract out the engine to a dev that isn't dead-set on using iterations of an ancient and not particularly great engine. And how about not letting Obsidian touch anything that isn't related to writing quests, backstory, &c. 

[Egan_BW]

Hey, I have never played an Obsidian game but have complete confidence in their game-make-sorcery. tongue best smiley

[MarcAFK]

About the ending.

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I understand why fallout 4 throws you against every faction at the end, it's just lazy writing and design in order to use what's available for another chapter. They could have handled it better though, perhaps every faction should have had left savoury elements in it, when you do the final assaults on each entity those guys show up to oppose you whereas everyone else gets out if the way, escapes, helps, or if your reputation is bad because that's how you've been playing, well then you have to murder everyone.

[Flying Dice]

Hey, I have never played an Obsidian game but have complete confidence in their game-make-sorcery. tongue best smiley

New Vegas was buggier and more prone to crashing than FO3 or the same-timeframe TES games. They made an RPG less stable and bugger than Bethesda's.

[NullForceOmega]

Yes FD, that is absolutely true.  It was also produced in less time (I think, I don't have any kind of numbers to back this one up), was blatantly pushed out the door ahead of schedule, and was still massively more fun to experience than F3.

Edit: More fun to experience minus the Liberty Prime walk.  I have never enjoyed a set-piece sequence as much as Libby going nuclear on a bunch of Enclave punks.

[Reudh]

Hey, I have never played an Obsidian game but have complete confidence in their game-make-sorcery. tongue best smiley

New Vegas was buggier and more prone to crashing than FO3 or the same-timeframe TES games. They made an RPG less stable and bugger than Bethesda's.

They were also only given ten months to finish it.

[ZebioLizard2]

Hey, I have never played an Obsidian game but have complete confidence in their game-make-sorcery. tongue best smiley

New Vegas was buggier and more prone to crashing than FO3 or the same-timeframe TES games. They made an RPG less stable and bugger than Bethesda's.

They were also only given ten months to finish it.

Thought it was Eight Months? But yeah it was a very short timeframe and they managed to get everything done for the storyline. (Not counting all the stuff that got cut because of it.. like playing past the battle for the dam)

[Neonivek]

Yes but remember that NV was originally intended as an expansion.

[TheBiggerFish]

Yes but remember that NV was originally intended as an expansion.

It was?  Wow.

[Neonivek]

Yes but remember that NV was originally intended as an expansion.

It was?  Wow.

Well that was what I always heard.

Also Honest Hearts for New Vegas? Originally intended to be in the base game but wasn't finished in time... Judging by how it turned out, maybe they should have left it unfinished

[GiglameshDespair]

I dunno...

it was announced at E3 as "not adirect sequel", rather than DLC. No where I can see seesm to be calling it DLC, or even suggesting it was once intended to be DLC.

It had 18 months of development, not 8.

[Reudh]

Hey, I have never played an Obsidian game but have complete confidence in their game-make-sorcery. tongue best smiley

New Vegas was buggier and more prone to crashing than FO3 or the same-timeframe TES games. They made an RPG less stable and bugger than Bethesda's.

They were also only given ten months to finish it.

Thought it was Eight Months? But yeah it was a very short timeframe and they managed to get everything done for the storyline. (Not counting all the stuff that got cut because of it.. like playing past the battle for the dam)

Eight months actual development time, two months script writing and brainstorming from what I recall from a Josh Sawyer interview.  Obsidian was also promised a massive bonus by Bethesda if FNV scored >85 on Metacritic.

It scored 84.

I dunno...

it was announced at E3 as "not adirect sequel", rather than DLC. No where I can see seesm to be calling it DLC, or even suggesting it was once intended to be DLC.

It had 18 months of development, not 8.

Bethesda's always insisted on their TES games (and probably wanted to inherit that trend) that no direct sequels should occur - the only caveat is it occurs in the same universe in a relatively similar timeframe.

[Putnam]

Bethesda's always made every ES game AFAIK, except for some mobile ports and Online, which takes place a very good chunk of time before the rest (800 years before the main series games IIRC, so about 400 before Redguard).

Skyrim also takes place 200 years after the rest, so close in time isn't really that necessary either.

[Reudh]

Bethesda's always made every ES game AFAIK, except for some mobile ports and Online, which takes place a very good chunk of time before the rest (800 years before the main series games IIRC, so about 400 before Redguard).

Skyrim also takes place 200 years after the rest, so close in time isn't really that necessary either.

Though that's relatively close for a fantasy universe. I doubt we'll see TES6: Hist Ships Vs KINMUNE Extreme Edition.

[Sensei]

Besides Online, the only non-Bethesda Elder Scrolls games that come to mind are the ones for Nokia cell phones.

*shudder*