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[KingofstarrySkies]

Bay12 army will finally be feasible without it being a massive pain the butthole.

[Graknorke]

So, quill18 has been playing some XCOM2. I don't want to watch it and ruin it for myself, but some of you might want to.

[Rolan7]

Watching the X-Files is kinda great when you love X-COM.  Kinda makes you sympathize with the men in black.

Mulder: "I'm sure all the other passengers on this plane would appreciate dying for your noble philosophy /s"
"Look out your window, Agent Mulder.  You see the lights?  Now imagine if one of those lights flickered off. 
You'd hardly notice, would you?
A dozen... TWO dozen lights extinguished.  Is it worth sacrificing the future - the lives of *millions* - to keep a few lights on?"

Dehumanizing victims of course, but Mulder has no counter.  I imagine that mop-up in X-COM 1 involves a lot of this (my impression is that aliens are officially denied by the world governments, they're an open secret though)

Now imagine such an organization conducting guerrilla ops against a global establishment...

[Aseaheru]

Wasent there an interview somewhere that talked about Xcom being inspired in part by the X files, or initially intending to include men in black, or something similar?

[RAM]

I think that Xcom may have been inspired by U.F.O.: Enemy Unknown, which was largely inspired by some little-known show from the people who made Thunderbirds... Though it was in production well before X-files came out so likely couldn't have gained much influence from it anyway.

[Aseaheru]

 I was talking about U.F.O.: Enemy Unknown or, as it was known in Europe and North America, X-Com: (insert rest of it).

 I dunno. I remember watching an interview on it (which was linked to somewhere within this thread) where they where talking about men in black or X-files or some such thing.

[Flying Dice]

I think that Xcom may have been inspired by U.F.O.: Enemy Unknown, which was largely inspired by some little-known show from the people who made Thunderbirds... Though it was in production well before X-files came out so likely couldn't have gained much influence from it anyway.

Not sure if you're serious, but if you are, UFO: Enemy Unknown and X-Com: UFO Defense are respectively the European and American release names for the same game.

[miauw62]

OldCom was inspired by a game called laser squad by the same developer.

[Majestic7]

The horrible shooter X-com from the recent years was supposed to be a MIB simulation, before the game was hastily redesigned into a shitty cover shooter.

[IronyOwl]

Wasent there an interview somewhere that talked about Xcom being inspired in part by the X files, or initially intending to include men in black, or something similar?

I recall this as well, I think you're talking about the Julian Gollop video. I know it mentioned a much older UFO documentary series, and I think mentioned X-Files as helping contribute to the sort of public interest in UFOs and aliens. X-Files was '93 and XCOM was '94, so the timing was doable but maybe a bit late for direct inspiration.

The intention to include men in black also sounds familiar from that video.

The horrible shooter X-com from the recent years was supposed to be a MIB simulation, before the game was hastily redesigned into a shitty cover shooter.

This makes me sad. A Bioshock clone probably would have been better than the thing they ended up with.

[Flying Dice]

That really is the saddest part about it, that a genuine effort to make an X-Com-verse '50s MiB game could have been amazing and have broken the trend of non-standard X-Com games being rubbish.

[Anvilfolk]

So, what are people's thoughts on the game not being out and there being a season pass already? I know it's the way things are these days, the way things are is supported by a market that allows them to work.

I guess I might preorder the regular edition and then wait until the rest of the content is on mega-sales to get it?

[Mephansteras]

Eh...it's one of those things where I think it's worth it if you're sure you're going to love the game, but otherwise you're better off waiting for stuff to go on a mega sale. Season passes are sort of a 'get it all on-sale ASAP', so they're not a bad deal, just never as good as the steep discounts you'll get later on. But, then, you have to wait for those discounts so...

Personally, I'm considering it, since everything I've seen so far indicates I'll enjoy XCOM 2 as much as the first, and I've got hundreds of hours clocked into EU/EW.

[scrdest]

That really is the saddest part about it, that a genuine effort to make an X-Com-verse '50s MiB game could have been amazing and have broken the trend of non-standard X-Com games being rubbish.

You know, that could be an amazing LCS-like.

[Graknorke]

Eh...it's one of those things where I think it's worth it if you're sure you're going to love the game

The only way you can be sure of that is if you acknowledge your own blind fandom and that you'll like the game regardless of its content. Or if there's a well-representative demo but we've seen how those can go coughcolonialmarinescough.