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[Nikitian]

So... victorious... 

Well, long reasons short, there is another extra +1/-1 to spend, but you can use it only if you spend the bonus on increasing a second different skill (so, if you can have +1 Con, +1 Intuition and -2 to spread, but if you stick with +2 Con, you have to spread -3).

The whole table of possible variants for your convenience:

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1 +1s:  1 -1s
2 +1s:  2 -1s if on separate stats
2 +1s:  3 -1s if on the same stat (as in original system)
3 +1s:  4 -1s ( 4=1+1+2)          (the inefficiency of over-specialization starts to kick in)
4 +1s:  7 -1s ( 7=1+1+2+3)
5 +1s: 11 -1s (11=1+1+2+3+4)

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Coolio.
Wait, does this apply to both stats and skills? Can the 1+ bonus only be used once on either stats or skills or does it apply once to each?

[Xantalos]

So what if I do those two +/-1s and then add a third +1 on top of one of those? Would I have to subtract -3 for that then?

[tryrar]

So what if I do those two +/-1s and then add a third +1 on top of one of those? Would I have to subtract -3 for that then?

Yes, according to chat(really, just get in here!)

[Nikitian]

Coolio.
Wait, does this apply to both stats and skills? Can the 1+ bonus only be used once on either stats or skills or does it apply once to each?

Both stats and skills, as usual.

So what if I do those two +/-1s and then add a third +1 on top of one of those? Would I have to subtract -3 for that then?

It merely circumvents the usual ladder of "one +1, one more -1s than the last time"; so third +1 would come at the price of two -1s, as before, fourth - at the price of three -1s, and so on.

[Xantalos]

OPTIMIZATION MODE ACTIVATE

[Nikitian]

Nah, that one is easy.
The total list of strictly 100% efficient builds:

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   +1/ -1
+1 +1/ -1 -1
   +2/ -1 -1 -1
+2 +1/ -1 -1 -1 -1
... Aand that's it. More and it gets inefficient (without taking "dump stats" into consideration, of course.)

[Xantalos]

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[kj1225]

Woo, changed my sheet a bit to abuse the new +1/-1 thingy

[piecewise]

http://parisbre56-phpexperiment.rhcloud.com/character_creation.html

[Xantalos]

Does that thing require the latest version of Adobe or Java or something to run? I can't get it to do anything on either my phone or computer, though the fact that my software's hilariously outdated on both is probably why.

[AoshimaMichio]

Just javascript, I think. It's not yet updated to include latest change, but Kriellya is working on it.

[Xantalos]

Ah.
Strange, last time I turned on my computer I updated Java.
...
Has Java been updated at all in the past ... 9 months?

[AoshimaMichio]

Ah.
Strange, last time I turned on my computer I updated Java.
...
Has Java been updated at all in the past ... 9 months?

Yes, it has been updated.
But I said JavaScript, not Java. Those two have as much common as a blueberry and banana.

[Xantalos]

Those are both fruit, they're practically identical.

I'll try to download i-
Actually can someone just run my character sheet through it and see if it checks out?