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Orange Wizard

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Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2015, 04:32:34 pm »

I'm betting it's (2) and (3). (1) is actually vaguely reasonable.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2015, 04:33:52 pm »

In addition to the social consequences, sometimes there are legal ones. Florida, Texas, and Kentucky are all considering bills right now that would require transgender people to use only the bathroom of their biological sex.
Wait what why? Who the hell benefits from that? Why do people keep trying to make laws like this?

Because bible belt (well okay, that would apply more to Kentucky) and idiot politicians.

Of course though, if you were born with aspects of both genders, then your biological sex becomes noetherbothsimultaneously and '????', but that would be a pretty small poportion of transgender people.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2015, 04:35:56 pm »

Depends if you mean Androgyny or hermaphrodites.

Though... I don't quite thing Hermaphrodites can "truly" be transgendered so to speak... since they are both.

I don't really know how Transgender and bathrooms will resolve itself.

Because of well... "Trap"

I bet you, they will tell horror stories of guys who pretend to be transgendered to install cameras in women's toilets.
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2015, 04:41:20 pm »

The point that I was making is that if your biological gender isn't 100% clear at birth, then transgender people will run into problems because if you have the appearance of a woman, but male parts, and you go into a male bathroom....

Actually, we should make one thing clear, when we speak of 'biological gender', are we talking about the organs that you posessed at birth, or at the genetic level? Because those are two completely different definitions/interpretations of 'biological gender'.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2015, 04:45:54 pm »

Ok... because I don't know a lot about this topic... I am going to ask something and I ask BEG you not to take offense to it.

Ok.... here it is, possibly the most offensive thing you heard today.

What if they made gender cards that transgendered people could have that basically works as a instant ID?
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Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2015, 04:46:52 pm »

What if they made gender cards that transgendered people could have that basically works as a instant ID?
Best. Idea. Ever.
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Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2015, 04:49:07 pm »

We already have those. They're called drivers licenses.

Or were you meaning more along the lines of those paper sticker name-tags, except that instead of "Hi my name is ______" it'd be "Hi my-"

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Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2015, 04:50:58 pm »

No just an additional plastic card you can have... that you can get changed at anytime.
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Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2015, 05:08:37 pm »

No just an additional plastic card you can have... that you can get changed at anytime.
I can't see this backfiring at all!
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Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2015, 05:14:12 pm »

Ok... because I don't know a lot about this topic... I am going to ask something and I ask BEG you not to take offense to it.

Ok.... here it is, possibly the most offensive thing you heard today.

What if they made gender cards that transgendered people could have that basically works as a instant ID?
And of course, they should always wear it on their sleeve. An Absolutely fAntastic ideA!
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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2015, 05:17:35 pm »

You act as if this doesn't exist for other things...

It is kind of less than a crimson A... given you only need to use it if the police get involved.
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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2015, 05:27:09 pm »

Actually, transgendered students may now be legally obligated to "wear the scarlet letter" in Texas. (This came up in the sad thread, in case you didn't notice.)
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Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2015, 05:27:49 pm »

Ok... because I don't know a lot about this topic... I am going to ask something and I ask BEG you not to take offense to it.

Ok.... here it is, possibly the most offensive thing you heard today.

What if they made gender cards that transgendered people could have that basically works as a instant ID?

The only reason I think this is a good idea is so that I could go around showing people my Man Card.   :P
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Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2015, 05:29:32 pm »

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« Last Edit: November 04, 2015, 05:29:59 pm by penguinofhonor »
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« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2015, 05:31:10 pm »

Neonivek: What does this solve that isn't solved by making it easier to change the gender marker on your ID?

Easier and cheaper to obtain... As well you can keep it private from your driver's license (which is important), and can even be kept from public records unlike your driver's license or ID.

Having a separate gender indicator from your Driver's license is important.
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