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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!  (Read 833707 times)

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1575 on: July 03, 2015, 06:11:13 pm »

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1576 on: July 03, 2015, 08:50:56 pm »

Ants really should be dropping it, I actually had difficulty getting chitin from spiders, at least black widows.  I must have killed 50 of them once in one basement back before stamina was a thing and got mountains of meat and 0 chitin.  If the workers aren't dropping it you might need the soldier ants.

Another thing to try may be swamp bugs.   But the downside of that is that you need to be able to kill....swamp bugs...
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1577 on: July 03, 2015, 10:01:07 pm »

Iirc chitin mainly drops from spiders. Try clearing out a spider nest in a basement somewhere.

^This. Plus, for some reason, they have absurdly good drops. I've gotten not one, but TWO power armour helmets from one spider nest.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1578 on: July 03, 2015, 10:27:16 pm »

You need losta ranks in survival to even get a remotely decent chance to get chitin. At least six, maybe five if you don't mind tedious grinding.
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« Reply #1579 on: July 04, 2015, 11:13:05 am »

Can anyone tell me why "snap to target" in the options menu isn't working when it's set to true?

Probably because it doesn't work in tiles mode.
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« Reply #1580 on: July 04, 2015, 03:10:26 pm »

Ok I have 3 survival and a butchering knife and have killed a ton of giant black widows. Still not getting chitin. Do I really need 6 survival just to extract the hardest part of an insect's body?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1581 on: July 04, 2015, 03:18:48 pm »

It's less "extract" and more "keep intact in usable form", so yes? It might be too high a requirement, but I'm not in a position to say either way.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1582 on: July 04, 2015, 08:13:14 pm »

It's less "extract" and more "keep intact in usable form", so yes? It might be too high a requirement, but I'm not in a position to say either way.

Apparently not. I just got 6 survival and butchered yet another entire basement of spiders and got zero chitin. So far I've gotten one chitin from a spider in a forest, but that's it. I think it's safe to say that the drop rate needs to be higher, especially since you need chitin for a refugee center quest.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1583 on: July 04, 2015, 08:21:47 pm »

I should just turn off NPCs at this point, there's still no way to lock doors, they keep giving me the Jabberwock quest (yes, spamming jabberwocks all over the map which proceed to kill everything within a mile of their starting location), and half the time I meet extremely unfriendly ones wiedling flamethrowers, which proceed to burn down entire cities.
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Apparently not. I just got 6 survival and butchered yet another entire basement of spiders and got zero chitin. So far I've gotten one chitin from a spider in a forest, but that's it. I think it's safe to say that the drop rate needs to be higher, especially since you need chitin for a refugee center quest.
I've been setting spider basements on fire ever since the first time I tried actually hunting the widows, which ended in complete fucking catastrophe. What loadout/tactics do you use to extinguish the subterranean arachnid menace?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1584 on: July 04, 2015, 09:04:33 pm »

Apparently not. I just got 6 survival and butchered yet another entire basement of spiders and got zero chitin. So far I've gotten one chitin from a spider in a forest, but that's it. I think it's safe to say that the drop rate needs to be higher, especially since you need chitin for a refugee center quest.
What kind of knife are you using?  That also has a large impact on your ability to extract items via butchering.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1585 on: July 04, 2015, 09:46:59 pm »

It's less "extract" and more "keep intact in usable form", so yes? It might be too high a requirement, but I'm not in a position to say either way.

Apparently not. I just got 6 survival and butchered yet another entire basement of spiders and got zero chitin. So far I've gotten one chitin from a spider in a forest, but that's it. I think it's safe to say that the drop rate needs to be higher, especially since you need chitin for a refugee center quest.

What's your dex, BTW? Some testing on my part had ants sometimes dropping chitin when butchering them with survival 4 and 12 Dex, while survival higher than that with the same dex yielded chitin nearly all of the time. Dropped down to 6 dex, I needed butchering of 6 to even get a chance at getting chitin, while 8 was the starting point when chitin yields were near guaranteed. All of this was done with a butchering knife (same item you're using to butcher).

And how about clothing? Wearing anything encumbering? I can't say if that would have any affect on this, but you never know.
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« Reply #1586 on: July 05, 2015, 10:57:11 am »

Iirc chitin mainly drops from spiders. Try clearing out a spider nest in a basement somewhere.

^This. Plus, for some reason, they have absurdly good drops. I've gotten not one, but TWO power armour helmets from one spider nest.

Fridge horror: What happened to the rest of the armor? Or the guys wearing them?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1587 on: July 05, 2015, 11:10:24 am »

I've been setting spider basements on fire ever since the first time I tried actually hunting the widows, which ended in complete fucking catastrophe. What loadout/tactics do you use to extinguish the subterranean arachnid menace?

Setting the basement on fire.... I literally just light some web on fire and everything dies. But if you are really have trouble with it, lighting web on fire (I think lighting web on the walls can spread to the other side) and then using a fire extinguisher to keep the doors fire-free might help.



It's less "extract" and more "keep intact in usable form", so yes? It might be too high a requirement, but I'm not in a position to say either way.

Apparently not. I just got 6 survival and butchered yet another entire basement of spiders and got zero chitin. So far I've gotten one chitin from a spider in a forest, but that's it. I think it's safe to say that the drop rate needs to be higher, especially since you need chitin for a refugee center quest.

What's your dex, BTW? Some testing on my part had ants sometimes dropping chitin when butchering them with survival 4 and 12 Dex, while survival higher than that with the same dex yielded chitin nearly all of the time. Dropped down to 6 dex, I needed butchering of 6 to even get a chance at getting chitin, while 8 was the starting point when chitin yields were near guaranteed. All of this was done with a butchering knife (same item you're using to butcher).

And how about clothing? Wearing anything encumbering? I can't say if that would have any affect on this, but you never know.

I have at least 10 dexterity, am using a variety of knives all with 19 butchering, and am generally not encumbered. Even if I was, it's not reasonable to think that that would have such a huge impact, unless I had like, 5 pairs of gloves on.

I'm prepared to call this a bug.
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« Reply #1588 on: July 05, 2015, 12:53:39 pm »

I've been setting spider basements on fire ever since the first time I tried actually hunting the widows, which ended in complete fucking catastrophe. What loadout/tactics do you use to extinguish the subterranean arachnid menace?

Setting the basement on fire.... I literally just light some web on fire and everything dies. But if you are really have trouble with it, lighting web on fire (I think lighting web on the walls can spread to the other side) and then using a fire extinguisher to keep the doors fire-free might help.

You can clear webbing off the walls and doors. Just stick your head inside and clear webs out from around the door.
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« Reply #1589 on: July 05, 2015, 12:58:38 pm »

I've been setting spider basements on fire ever since the first time I tried actually hunting the widows, which ended in complete fucking catastrophe. What loadout/tactics do you use to extinguish the subterranean arachnid menace?

Setting the basement on fire.... I literally just light some web on fire and everything dies. But if you are really have trouble with it, lighting web on fire (I think lighting web on the walls can spread to the other side) and then using a fire extinguisher to keep the doors fire-free might help.

You can clear webbing off the walls and doors. Just stick your head inside and clear webs out from around the door.

Yeah but you risk getting poisoned and injured.
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