Tiruin: I'm not forgetting that, but I'm not able to pin down who's doing it right now. That may be another member of that scumteam or a townie or a member of the second scumteam (if we have one). Right now, I'm more worried about dealing with whoever is trying to screw everyone else out of voting.
Deus Asmoth: Flaws can only be taken at the beginning of the game, so short of having another scum member besmirch you with it again (which would put them in the line of fire for this lynch, so it wouldn't make a difference) or you get REALLY lucky with a curse, you're not getting it back. As such, that particular argument is invalid. If a town player is actually doing it, they are being a bad, bad townie: removing a vote from the town is a MUCH bigger deal than removing a vote from the scum, since the town is the majority over the scum. When I'm looking at a negative-impact power usage for towniness, there are three questions I ask: will it's use on a townie hurt the town, will it's use on a scum hurt the scum, and will it give the user a personal benefit. The third question is because if a power does not personally benefit the user, it is more likely to hurt town than scum in the hands of a townie. The answer to these questions for besmirching guilty conscience is yes, not really, and no. Thus, if someone ACTUALLY did that as a townie, they are a bad, bad townie and didn't think it through. Additionally, while scum players will treat guilty conscience like unable to vote with regards to using their vote (since they either know who the other scum are or know who some of the scum are and don't want to risk hitting a town), a town player has two options: treat it as if unable to vote and look like a scum, or continue voting and risk a double-kill if a mislynch happens. Because the town is in the majority, it is more likely for the power to hit town if used by a town AND it hurts the town more because the vote is still the primary weapon of the town, since it's the one weapon we have that is difficult to get around.
hector13: There are POSSIBLE holes, but I'm using Occam's razor here. I'll apply it to my theory of the scum using besmirch to your theories.
Vote stealing: Theoretically possible, and certainly a possibility re: Varee's vote not showing up, but it doesn't discount my theory: to the contrary, it strengthens the idea that there is a vote-fuckery scumteam in play. While it would mean that flabort is not necessarily cleared, if the scumteam stole his vote why would he claim unable to vote when he didn't have it? Lying is, under most circumstances, an anti-town proposition.
One curse and one besmirch: Also a possibility, but Occam's Razor. The odds are, particularly since they happened on different game days, that it was the same person striking twice with a besmirch.
Tiruin and TDS lying: Theoretically a possibility, but this would require TDS to be in on it, meaning that TDS and Tiruin are on the same scumteam. Right now, I'm more inclined to believe that it's someone else, but this is a possibility to consider.
Persus13: First of all, defending another player from a legitimate attack is scummy as shit. Second of all, Shakerag's answer depended on an assumption he made about OSG rather than anything OSG said in the thread, and OSG has already given his answer. Additionally, I find scumhunting the "normal way" to be extremely inefficient, and what I'm doing right now (action analysis) is how town won the first CYOM and Supernatural 7, in the first case lynching Deathsword/you because you were the most likely converter and the second by figuring out who the possibilities were and who was clean. Both of these have some room for error, because one was a CYOM and the other we didn't know what the bad guy's powers were, but we went with the most likely option and won the game that way.
hector13 again: I didn't say it cleared anyone entirely, but certain people are cleared of being the one distributing guilty conscience. Additionally, Tiruin was one of the people who GAINED guilty conscience, so unless she's lying about that (which would nullify my entire argument to begin with, so it wouldn't matter whether or not TDS was telling the truth with regards to my argument), she's cleared of being the one doing it. Do you believe that she is lying about gaining guilty conscience?
Everyone: Even if I can't post, I can see everything you are posting if I have access to wifi, thus why I got back to you so soon after school ended. I wrote this up as your posts came in, I just wasn't able to post directly to the forums (I get your posts in my email). Also, I see everything you put in spoilers, so even though anything that you said in spoilers I had already written in my post you shouldn't do that in the future to "avoid influencing the response".
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