You know what's a lot more difficult than 'hurrhurr Christians are dumb' or 'Some christians think this way, therefore all Christians are terrible people'?
Where did you get that from?
That Wolf for the first part. Second part just seemed to be kinda the general sentiment about religion by some of the people here.
Wow, no. Nobody is saying that Christians are bad people. We're criticizing ideas, which is utterly different.
If you have a problem with that "general sentiment", keep in mind that one of the underlying ideas in Christianity is that *all* people are terrible. Most atheists disagree with that, claiming that humans are generally moral without requiring divine intervention.
Which means, *technically*, Christians are saying that we're terrible and we're saying that they aren't. Which is a silly way of putting it, but technically true.
But seriously, I think you're mistaking arguments over beliefs for personal attacks.
Keep in mind that I don't understand what That Wolf is saying 90% of the time. I think there's a language barrier? He might be insulting people for all I know.
Ah, and DwArfy1? I would posit that what separates divinity from humanity is humanity's inability to become divine.
Though I also really like the idea that a god is defined as something capable of existing in two places at the same time, which comes from a book series. If you try and dissect the words or whatever, then it becomes meaningless, but that's what happens when you try to pull language out of context and dissect it.
Also possibly existing on a different level of dimensions than we do, which is so far beyond the way our brains have been made to understand the world it is difficult to physically conceive of in a meaningful way.
That would explain a lot. I think we've had long arguments about what it means to really be "outside" the universe... If something can reach into our observable universe, there's no reason to think we couldn't someday reach out. Even if it's just communication. And, like probing a black box, we could gain understanding of this outside entity by observing its interactions with us and our universe.
Only problem is, we can't observe those interactions because we don't have any solid data on them. As if they don't exist, or are actively hiding from verification. Otherwise we'd have a whole field of study for "Extradimensional Psychology".
I'm not mocking - I kinda believe in the latter. That there are bizarre entities which avoid scientific scrutiny for mysterious reasons. I call them "fairies" or "little people", though, not gods.
One difference is that gods, according to ancient people, appeared often and performed great miracles so that they *would* be seen and believed. Including Jehovah. Fairies have always been secretive, often even allergic to science. Which is a convenient excuse for why we can't find them, but also consistent. Modern religions claim that the gods gradually stopped performing miracles, and rarely explain why.
An exception might be Norse mythology. I don't know much about modern day practice, but one could explain the silence of the gods by saying they were killed in Ragnarok. Like fairies, consistent with the lore.
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