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Author Topic: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Game Over - Scum win  (Read 53022 times)

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #345 on: February 12, 2015, 05:39:39 pm »

Actually, wait.

If the cop only has results on dead players, he should hold off on claiming.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 1: A thin soup
« Reply #346 on: February 12, 2015, 06:15:42 pm »

Scripten:
Comrade's poor cases bother me and he has definitely egged on TvT arguments from the sidelines, but he plays like this as town, too.

Wait which ones did I egg on?

Nerjin:
Pretty much what everyone else wants. Reads please.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #347 on: February 12, 2015, 06:20:58 pm »

Of course everyone living is offline except for Zormod.  ::)

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 1: A thin soup
« Reply #348 on: February 12, 2015, 06:36:18 pm »

Wait which ones did I egg on?

You sat on the sidelines for most of D1, just coming in to keep the argument going a few times between myself and Mastahcheese.

Though, I will rescind that this has happened on D2. I thought that you had just hopped onto the Peradon/OSG argument, but you actually started on Peradon before that happened.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #349 on: February 12, 2015, 06:55:41 pm »

Actually, wait.

If the cop only has results on dead players, he should hold off on claiming.

What I meant was if the cop does have results on the living players, but they're not scum results.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 1: A thin soup
« Reply #350 on: February 12, 2015, 07:04:30 pm »

Wait which ones did I egg on?

You sat on the sidelines for most of D1, just coming in to keep the argument going a few times between myself and Mastahcheese.
So yeah basically that's null and void then because we got no definitive proof that you are town then. And how was that from the sidelines anyway? I was voting you and making arguments.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #351 on: February 12, 2015, 07:05:52 pm »

Actually, wait.

If the cop only has results on dead players, he should hold off on claiming.

What I meant was if the cop does have results on the living players, but they're not scum results.

Never mind, I missed the post on the last page...
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #352 on: February 12, 2015, 07:39:24 pm »

Actually, wait.

If the cop only has results on dead players, he should hold off on claiming.

What I meant was if the cop does have results on the living players, but they're not scum results.

Never mind, I missed the post on the last page...

Clearing even just one player would make LyLo that much easier for the rest of us.

So yeah basically that's null and void then because we got no definitive proof that you are town then. And how was that from the sidelines anyway? I was voting you and making arguments.

While nobody else has this evidence, I do have my role PM, so from my PoV, I know the exchange was TvT. This is going to affect my reads, obviously.

Would you say that you were at the forefront of the active participants in the day's events?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #353 on: February 12, 2015, 08:05:54 pm »

Here's a reads list thing.
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I highly doubt there is another town PR.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #354 on: February 12, 2015, 08:16:17 pm »

Scripten:
So yeah basically that's null and void then because we got no definitive proof that you are town then. And how was that from the sidelines anyway? I was voting you and making arguments.

While nobody else has this evidence, I do have my role PM, so from my PoV, I know the exchange was TvT. This is going to affect my reads, obviously.
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But you seem to be using it as evidence otherwise why bring it up? You have no active cases and it is actually one of the more malicious claims in the list of reads, you also seem to kind've back off from it by saying that it's my usual way of play (Kinda is) but still it is the most serious point you brought up and if I'm joint second it means you're serious about it.

Sorry but it looks to me like you're trying to gauge how willing everyone else is to lynch me.

Would you say that you were at the forefront of the active participants in the day's events?
No. But I was not sitting on the sidelines either and launching wilful encouragement to spur an argument on, I was trying to get you lynched, I was making a case and I got involved directly which does not seem to be the sidelines to me.

Zormod:
Any particular reason why you suspect me the most? Any at all?

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #355 on: February 12, 2015, 08:21:32 pm »

Here's a reads list thing.
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I highly doubt there is another town PR.

You highly doubt, do you?

You're still not adding anything to the game with your reads list there. Why do you think Scripten is most town? Why is Shamrock most scummy?

Why did you list Nerjin higher than me in terms of towniness? Both Shamrock and Scripten list me as most town next to them, what have I done different in your eyes?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #356 on: February 12, 2015, 08:30:21 pm »

I highly doubt there is another town PR.

Why?

But you seem to be using it as evidence otherwise why bring it up? You have no active cases and it is actually one of the more malicious claims in the list of reads, you also seem to kind've back off from it by saying that it's my usual way of play (Kinda is) but still it is the most serious point you brought up and if I'm joint second it means you're serious about it.

I said that nobody else has this evidence. Other players are still free to use their own reads when examining your play in the MC/Scripten interaction. I don't need to do that, since I know for a fact what my alignment is.

I don't know how much I like your insinuation that my examining your play this game and making a comparison to other games is backing off. I'm attempting to avoid a mislynch, since something about your play, town or scum, makes me feel uneasy. I'm still plenty serious about my analysis of your play.

Sorry but it looks to me like you're trying to gauge how willing everyone else is to lynch me.

Considering your all-game tunnel on me, I'm surprised you can't tell that I'm trying to avoid potentially mislynching you. (If you are even town.) Zormod and Nerjin have already expressed misgivings about your slot, so you can hardly support your assertion that I'm fishing for plurality.

No. But I was not sitting on the sidelines either and launching wilful encouragement to spur an argument on, I was trying to get you lynched, I was making a case and I got involved directly which does not seem to be the sidelines to me.

You basically hopped in every so often to make a push and keep the argument going. Maybe I'm wrong. Where were your other contributions to the game, if you were not just a third party scum egging on the interaction?

Hector13: Do you have a reads list, by any chance?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #357 on: February 12, 2015, 08:50:49 pm »

Town
Shamrock/Nerjin - I'm inclined to see Shamrock as more town than Nerjin, but not by much. Both have been a little lurky, but I feel Shamrock has contributed a bit more with their pressure on Scripten.
Scripten - He has seemed to be scumhunting, but has also been on both mislynches, which acts against him. Voted for Origami D2 without a reason (at the time) and came in a few hours before the end of D2 saying "come on guys, we need to be active!" which seemed a bit pointless, and only to make him seem more town.
Zormod - No contribution to the game; no content, no votes.
Scum
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LII: A damp troll hole - Day 3 - A rich stew, a small group
« Reply #358 on: February 12, 2015, 09:39:04 pm »

Shamrock has an odd fixation on Scripten, Scripten just seems town to me in addition to the content he has, and I really didn't want to do that tie thing. As for the cop, it just seems to be a very slim chance. Even if one does appear, how would we even know he isn't just scum or scumcop pushing for a mislynch?
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« Reply #359 on: February 12, 2015, 09:41:58 pm »

Shamrock has an odd fixation on Scripten, Scripten just seems town to me in addition to the content he has, and I really didn't want to do that tie thing. As for the cop, it just seems to be a very slim chance. Even if one does appear, how would we even know he isn't just scum or scumcop pushing for a mislynch?

And your other three reads, now?

Really, Zormod, it's going to be very annoying if we have to prompt you to give out every piece of information you have.

Let's put it this way: we don't care what your reads list is, so much as why it is the way it is.
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