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[Retropunch]

I didn't buy Attilla because it just seemed like a repackaged Rome 2, but people are saying that it was apparently great.

Warhammer Total War for me then was kind of faith restored in CA - but Sega and their rushed development, DLC policy and crushing budget will never really make me happy.

Attilla for me was one of the more fun Total War historical games. It felt to 'glue together' a bit better than the other games in the series (I know that sounds a bit abstract) and I played it a lot.

But yeah, Sega is really starting to ruin a whole load of stuff, and it only seems to be getting worse (Dawn of War for instance)

[Neonivek]

I am just waiting for them to release a game that is finished.

And I don't mean "everything sold as DLC was intended for the original game"

I mean... release a game that clearly completed development and wasn't released early because they could get away with it.

[Tack]

Never gonna happen, Neo. They've explicitly said if there was no DLC, it wouldn't be a 'more complete' game, there'd just be less game.

[Neonivek]

Never gonna happen, Neo. They've explicitly said if there was no DLC, it wouldn't be a 'more complete' game, there'd just be less game.

I don't even mean "No DLC" I just mean "Complete game"

For example The Sims 2 had a metric megaton of DLC... but it was released complete and relatively glitch free (The only feature they tried finishing before release was rain)

As opposed to Rome 2 Total War... Which was an incomplete garbage monster on release.

Give me DLC, Drown the game in DLC, make the DLC rain from the heaven. Yet finish the game first.

[Hanzoku]

Ah, you mean 'release a game as a finished product, not as an alpha/beta that's patched and DLC'd to the complete state'. Yeah, that's my major complaint about how developers and publishers approach games. It popped up about as soon as high speed internet was common enough that they could get away with large downloads. Anymore, I ignore everything released now and check back in a year or so, once they've managed to fix most of the errors.

[Tack]

Yeah, I'd think they learned their lesson after Rome 2's release nearly shut them down.
Far as I can tell, Attilla and WTW were both released relatively bug-free.

[Antioch]

Rome 2's problem wasn't just its launch. It was a bland and uninspired game overall.

[Mech#4]

A video showcasing the Temple Guard of the Lizardmen has been released.


Also, a video of the stream Lizardmen list has been put up. I haven't watched it myself but there might be a few more details mentioned beyond the list in it.

[Majestic7]

I guess I'm the only person who liked Rome 2, other than the blatant DLC whoring. ("Pay seven bucks to play a faction with three unique units and one unique faction bonus.") I liked Empire too, although some of the battlefield bugs that were left unfixed are hilarious. Such as two friendly infantry units sharing the same space shooting each other when trying to hit the enemy. Although Warhammer is much less complex than any previous titles, at least the combat actually work. (Tho Skaven should be killing each other like Empire troops.)

Attila came back towards Medieval 1 in having some political complexity regarding governers and whatnot. Hopefully there will be a new historical Total War with such content as well. Although Warhammer has full battles, it suffers from lack of content otherwise. Once you have your perfect army composition down, there is little to do since the campaign part is quite bland.

[Digital Hellhound]

Rome 2 was a little bland at start, but still enjoyable - especially since I didn't really have any of the bugs that were troubling others. By Emperor Edition it was a great game. I've got a lot more hours sunk into it than, say, Empire.

[Mech#4]

There's been a few more short videos. Do people like dinosaurs?  We've got the Bastiladon, the Stegadon and a video of the leaping spear attack from the Temple Guard video previously.

[Antioch]

I found rome 2 to be thoroughly disappointing.

Though I heard Attila was a lot better?

[umiman]

I found rome 2 to be thoroughly disappointing.

Though I heard Attila was a lot better?

Yes, Attila is really, really good. Improves on Rome 2 in every single way and makes the game ludicriously hard. Easily the hardest Total War out there. Even the tutorial is hard.

[Antioch]

I found rome 2 to be thoroughly disappointing.

Though I heard Attila was a lot better?

Yes, Attila is really, really good. Improves on Rome 2 in every single way and makes the game ludicriously hard. Easily the hardest Total War out there. Even the tutorial is hard.

Ah, good since the only total war that was even remotely challenging was shogun 2.

[Majestic7]

Realm Divide in Shogun 2 is bullshit, though. Especially with even your vassals turning against you. But then, diplomacy has always been diarhea in Total War. It is a shame, since the grand campaigns would be much better with passable diplomacy AI.