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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19906 on: June 20, 2016, 05:55:33 pm »

While I've never tried to argue for an unlawful stop in court myself, my personal experience is that it's damn hard to disprove most officer's reasons for stopping you. "Driving erratically","looked intoxicated","didn't stop long enough at the stop sign","waited too long at the stop light indicating distraction or intoxication","smelled marijuana coming from their vehicle","vehicle tint looked too dark." The list of unprovable pretexts they can cook up is long. This is enshrining in a SC decision what they've already done for years in practice. It sucks but trying to get a charge dropped for an unlawful stop was already pretty tough.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19907 on: June 20, 2016, 06:01:00 pm »

Also about the attempted-trump-assassin:

A man arrested Saturday at a Donald Trump rally in Las Vegas told authorities that he grabbed a local police officer's gun in order to kill the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, which he had been planning to do for more than a year.

In a complaint filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Nevada by a Secret Service officer, a man named Michael Steven Sandford was charged with an act of violence on restricted grounds at Trump's rally at the Treasure Island Casino in Las Vegas.

The filing cites a Special Agent Swierkowski (his first name was not given), who said that Sandford had said he had lived in the United States for one and a half years, arriving in Hoboken, New Jersey, before going to the Ontario/San Bernardino, California, area. According to the report, Sandford was carrying a driver's license from the United Kingdom.

Sandford then said, according to the filing, that he drove to Nevada from California with the purpose of killing Trump after seeing reports that he would be holding an event in Las Vegas. After arriving in Las Vegas last Friday, Sandford said he went to a gun range to learn how to shoot a gun, which he said he had never done.

According to the report, Sandford was arrested after attempting to grab the officer's gun, saying that he thought the holster was unlocked. The man also said that he would attempt the same maneuver again and had been planning to attempt to kill the candidate for more than a year "but decided to act on this occasion because he finally felt confident about trying it."

Trump hasn't tweeted anything about this yet as far as I can tell. Who wants to take bets on whether he accuses Britain/MI6/The Queen of sending an incompetent assassin to try to take him out?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19908 on: June 20, 2016, 06:14:46 pm »

I gotta say that is some refreshing honesty that guy brings to our political debate.  He really doesn't hide a thing.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19910 on: June 20, 2016, 07:26:14 pm »

I liked it more the first time.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19911 on: June 20, 2016, 07:32:48 pm »

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19912 on: June 20, 2016, 07:35:16 pm »

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19913 on: June 20, 2016, 07:43:48 pm »

It keeps happening

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19914 on: June 20, 2016, 10:26:16 pm »

He hasn't advertised trickle down at all. He has literally just offered everything people want to hear, there is not a laissez faire plan of any sort
or a coherent plan of any sort

Those campain websites they constantly mention are real websites with real information: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

Income Tax RateLong Term Cap Gains/ Dividends RateSingle FilersMarried FilersHeads of Household
0%   0%$0 to $25,000$0 to $50,000$0 to $37,500
10%0%$25,001 to $50,000$50,001 to $100,000$37,501 to $75,000
20%15%$50,001 to $150,000$100,001 to $300,000$75,001 to $225,000
25%20%$150,001 and up$300,001 and up$225,001 and up
The other information is not conveniently displayed in the graph
-No alternative minimum tax
-No inheritance tax
-Corporate tax rate changed to flat 15% rate
-Personal corporate income tax rate  changed to flat 15% rate
-One time repatriation of overseas earnings at 10% rate
-Tax overseas earnings at 15% after one time repatriation
-Typical meaningless boilerplate about corporate tax code simplification (although curiously not the typical boilerplate about income tax code simplification)
-Those within the 10% bracket will keep all or most of their current deductions
-Those within the 20% bracket will keep more than half of their current deductions
-Those within the 25% bracket will keep fewer deductions
-Charitable giving and mortgage interest deductions will remain unchanged for all taxpayers.

Oh and this is "revenue neutral" of course.  ::)
He wants to off taxes but hasn't actually spoken of any meaningful spending cuts, and gee don't tax cuts and not spending cuts sound just great?

It's not a coherent laissez faire plan, it's just saying what sounds good
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19915 on: June 20, 2016, 10:33:37 pm »

He could scrap the ridiculous state health insurance investment credit whatever system, that might even be a net positive.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19916 on: June 20, 2016, 10:40:11 pm »

He could scrap the ridiculous state health insurance investment credit whatever system, that might even be a net positive.

SCHIP?  Scrap the program to provide healthcare to destitute children in order to pay for tax cuts that mostly go to millionaires?  Sir, are you by any chance a villain from an Edwardian novel?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19917 on: June 20, 2016, 10:45:02 pm »

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Fuck him. He isn't the first who drank too deeply of the Trump is Hitler koolaid and he probably won't be the last either, and he says outright he'd try again if he had the chance. I guess he's lucky he didn't actually have a gun (or know how retention holsters work, seriously what a fucking dumbass) or he'd likely be dead instead of just on the fast track to rotting in prison.

But to prepare, he went to a range the day before, and fired a whole 20 rounds before he decided he was ready. Hilarious.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19918 on: June 20, 2016, 10:46:30 pm »

More information on the would-be assassin

Fuck him. He isn't the first who drank too deeply of the Trump is Hitler koolaid and he probably won't be the last either, and he says outright he'd try again if he had the chance. I guess he's lucky he didn't actually have a gun (or know how retention holsters work, seriously what a fucking dumbass) or he'd likely be dead instead of just on the fast track to rotting in prison.

But to prepare, he went to a range the day before, and fired a whole 20 rounds before he decided he was ready. Hilarious.

And if you read Marvel... Donald Trump is LITERALLY a Nazi.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19919 on: June 20, 2016, 10:47:37 pm »

The time has come to build a great wall around british isles and to make queen pay for it and to pay for previous queens too.
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