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[Sheb]

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[DJ]

Wouldn't a machete be better for home defense than any gun? It's an old trope that knife beats gun at engagements closer than 20 feet, and that's the sort of range you can expect inside your house.

[Strife26]

That's a common misconception. A gun (other than a few pistols like the m9) are lethal all the way down to muzzle tip.

[Rolan7]

But drawing and firing takes a long time compared to someone close by charging at you.  There's that police training video I've linked several times already, I don't have it handy right now.  Even if you shoot the charging person once or twice without aiming, they're still on top of you with a knife (and instant death from bullets is movie magic).

No, what you really want is a katana and bushido lessons.  Make the unsheathing into a strike of its own

[Sheb]

Yeah, but then if you are investigating weird noises downstairs, you've probably drawn already.

[Loud Whispers]

Journalist Owen Jones stormed off a live newspaper review on Sky News after the show's presenter refused to describe the Orlando nightclub shooting as an attack on gay people.
Lol
For reference, Sky news were one of the people who touted the progressive line that Hebdo were assholes who provoked their own slaughter

Yeah, but then if you are investigating weird noises downstairs, you've probably drawn already.

Yep, and most people buying a gun for self defence are gonna be people who can't handle themselves physically, let alone a much fitter and stronger intruder. Gun levels that field considerably

[Sheb]

Journalist Owen Jones stormed off a live newspaper review on Sky News after the show's presenter refused to describe the Orlando nightclub shooting as an attack on gay people.
Lol
For reference, Sky news were one of the people who touted the progressive line that Hebdo were assholes who provoked their own slaughter

Yeah, but then if you are investigating weird noises downstairs, you've probably drawn already.

Yep, and most people buying a gun for self defence are gonna be people who can't handle themselves physically, let alone a much fitter and stronger intruder. Gun levels that field considerably

1) Yeah, that famous progressive line that Hebdo deserved what it got...

2) Source on that? To me, it seems the people buying guns for self-defense are the people that like guns and violences.

[hector13]

Yeah, but then if you are investigating weird noises downstairs, you've probably drawn already.

I imagine if you've invaded someone's home you also have your weapon drawn, should you have one. Where are the studies on that, lads?

[DJ]

On the other hand a machete would be better at disabling (pretty much any slash is going to disable a major muscle group) even if it'd be worse at actually killing (shallower wounds).

And yeah, the intruder will definitely have an edge. He can shoot as soon as he sees you, while you need a moment to confirm it's not one of your family members.

[Reelya]

Yep, and most people buying a gun for self defence are gonna be people who can't handle themselves physically, let alone a much fitter and stronger intruder. Gun levels that field considerably

Death by your own gun exceeds death by a strangers gun by quite a margin in the USA. If you introduce guns into a place that has very little gun crime, almost the complete bulk of the impact will be domestic shootings, suicides, or the gun being stolen during a break-in. We're not talking conjecture here or anecdotes, or describing hypothetical scenarios here, just the raw data.

[Leafsnail]

The AR-15 is great if you suddenly find yourself under attack from an entire gay nightclub.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Yep, and most people buying a gun for self defence are gonna be people who can't handle themselves physically, let alone a much fitter and stronger intruder. Gun levels that field considerably

Death by your own gun exceeds death by a strangers gun by quite a margin in the USA. If you introduce guns into a place that has very little gun crime, almost the complete bulk of the impact will be domestic shootings, suicides, or the gun being stolen during a break-in. We're not talking conjecture here or anecdotes, or describing hypothetical scenarios here, just the raw data.

The failures of others are not a legitimate reason to leave us all defenseless.

[Strife26]

Of course it does! How else does the government justify getting more and more control over everything

[Leafsnail]

Personally I think the harm of thousands of unnecessary deaths being caused by guns every year significantly outweighs the false sense of security associated with owning one for self-defense.

[hector13]

Are guns the only way to defend yourself..? /fuelonfire