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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19050 on: June 07, 2016, 12:53:50 am »

Cracked does it it again with the really good reporting.
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Not really. They use the funds they make in making clickbait to fund the serious articles they really want to do. It takes them some time, but, you know. Just like how several modern authors fund the projects they want to write by producing erotica under pen names because it's impossible for several people who can even make it to the bestseller lists to live off of their books.
This is a saddening thing...
Are we still talking about cracked? If dan obrian is writing erotica you can sign me the fuck up. That shits got to be gold.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19051 on: June 07, 2016, 06:17:21 am »

This is a saddening thing...
Hey, if they're at least producing decent erotica, is it really that bad of a thing? Ain't nothin' wrong with a bit o' excessively rose tinted literature. Porn can be well written too, damnit!
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19052 on: June 07, 2016, 07:03:04 am »

Sure, but if it's under a pen-name and they don't actually WANT to be writing it, then that's bad!

I dream of a world where pornographic writing can make it on the best-sellers list, where people aren't afraid of attaching their name to porn, and where an author can get by on writing best-sellers without resorting to things they'd rather not do :V
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19053 on: June 07, 2016, 07:47:06 am »

There's plenty of reasons to use a pen name just for stuff in different genres, explicit material or not, though. It's not exactly a bad idea to have specific sorts of material attached to a particular name, rather than many different sorts attached to a single one. S'kinda' how some game publishing/development companies run, really, and it can be fairly effective branding and whatnot. It's not like authors have to use pen-names to manage, after all. Just look at Piers Anthony, who had one major series they were known for that was (almost) entirely clean and basically everything else they wrote (of which there was quite a bit), under the same name, was inundated with smut (say it again, guy who wrote a gigantic series aimed at young adults/older teens also wrote Pornucopia. And its sequel.). Fairly sure there's no small number of similar cases out there, yeah.

The want to is more of a thing, but... well, it's not the world we live it, heh. If it isn't porn it's ghost writing for some popular series or putting out whatever's trending that month, or just doing some other sort of work. To an extent, I'd even call that kinda' okay, m'self. I don't entirely mind authors having to branch out and/or keep producing new material to keep themselves afloat, y'know? Also who's to say they actually dislike writing th'stuff :V Some probably do, and yeah, sympathy to 'em, but if there's anything that seems to be a (guilty) pleasure for prolific writers, it's writing porn.

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Though me, I don't dream of a world when an author can get by on writing best-sellers, I dream of a world where they can write and not have to be making best-sellers to get by :P

... mostly because I don't really read best sellers these days. I just want the internet writing people to be able to eat and keep producing my readins. Kinda' stopped caring much about the published book scene around the point fresh paperbacks started costing 150-200% more than they did when I was a kid :-\
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19054 on: June 07, 2016, 08:05:01 am »

Just look at Piers Anthony, who had one major series they were known for that was (almost) entirely clean and basically everything else they wrote (of which there was quite a bit), under the same name, was inundated with smut (say it again, guy who wrote a gigantic series aimed at young adults/older teens also wrote Pornucopia. And its sequel.).

Xanth wasn't all that clean, to be honest.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19055 on: June 07, 2016, 08:09:08 am »

Eh, there was innuendo and whatnot, but at the time I stopped reading them there was only one outright sex scene :V

... for anthony, that's clean. Most of it was cleaner than day time TV, regardless.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19056 on: June 07, 2016, 03:32:56 pm »

Things are happening. The way he talks about "the truth" suggests to me that something has been uncovered that undermines someone's testimony, shows some negligence on the part of the executive, or puts the incident itself in a new light, which will be released in the report but hasn't been made public. Even if there isn't anything to get upset over in there it should be interesting to see the report when it's released.
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« Reply #19057 on: June 07, 2016, 03:55:03 pm »

I(m betting there wont be anything new.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19058 on: June 07, 2016, 04:06:21 pm »

At the 11th hour, the group says, the LWT researcher said the show’s makers “did not want to associate themselves with the work of the Rolling Jubilee due to its roots in Occupy Wall Street. Instead John Oliver framed the debt buy as his idea: a giveaway to compete with Oprah. The lead researcher who worked on this segment invoked the cover of journalism to justify distancing themselves from our project.”

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Also what I don't get about their story is why didn't they want to associate themselves with their roots in OWS since that is just trendy and marketable? Surely the shows producers don't have that much WS cred to bother protecting lel

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19059 on: June 07, 2016, 04:11:53 pm »

I(m betting there wont be anything new.

I'm betting there will be one new thing.  A new investigation to follow this one.  This is our life now.  The next 100 years will be Benghazi investigations.

In other news nobody cares about: Apparently Lindsey Graham is still hating on Trump.  Which I think makes him the only republican left?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19060 on: June 07, 2016, 04:39:17 pm »

Obviously under a Clinton presidency the first order of business will be to bomb Benghazi into dust and ash so that there's nothing left to investigate.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19061 on: June 07, 2016, 05:30:25 pm »

Things are happening. The way he talks about "the truth" suggests to me that something has been uncovered that undermines someone's testimony, shows some negligence on the part of the executive, or puts the incident itself in a new light, which will be released in the report but hasn't been made public. Even if there isn't anything to get upset over in there it should be interesting to see the report when it's released.
The quantity and quality of politely-worded venom in that is downright impressive. Somebody done fucked up, and I'm reasonably sure that an intern or two had a field day.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19062 on: June 07, 2016, 07:35:24 pm »

I(m betting there wont be anything new.

I'm betting there will be one new thing.  A new investigation to follow this one.  This is our life now.  The next 100 years will be Benghazi investigations.

In other news nobody cares about: Apparently Lindsey Graham is still hating on Trump.  Which I think makes him the only republican left?

I only read the headline but didn't Paul Ryan just today refer to yet another Trump statement as like "racist and disgusting." Maybe that's not quite hating on Trump but that's strong, unsupportive language for the presumptive Republican nominee.

Things are happening. The way he talks about "the truth" suggests to me that something has been uncovered that undermines someone's testimony, shows some negligence on the part of the executive, or puts the incident itself in a new light, which will be released in the report but hasn't been made public. Even if there isn't anything to get upset over in there it should be interesting to see the report when it's released.
The quantity and quality of politely-worded venom in that is downright impressive. Somebody done fucked up, and I'm reasonably sure that an intern or two had a field day.

I was mentally comparing it to this thread, wondering if we manage to needle each other with half the practice of top legislators. Anyways, if they're claiming the timing of the democrat's willingness to cooperate is questionable, I'd argue that the timing of the release of any new information "found by talking to people and looking at existing documents" is also highly suspect, given the projections that say Hilary has it locked in.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19063 on: June 07, 2016, 07:36:34 pm »

Please do let Sanders wiiiiin.
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« Reply #19064 on: June 07, 2016, 07:40:42 pm »

I'd hope less for that, and more that whatever they intend to reveal, if anything, isn't enough to sway the average American voter to vote Trump instead.
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