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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1588151 times)

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12705 on: February 26, 2016, 10:28:55 am »

...I walk into this thread, and that's what I see. That image in my mind cracks me up.

Anyway, who's your most favoritest evil conniver who're-you-fooling liar yelling idiot yet-another-bush Republican candidate? I don't know who I'd pick (if I had to), but I know it wouldn't be Trump or Cruz or Carson. Seriously, you're a brain surgeon, that means you've been through college. Did you sleep through every class you took?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12706 on: February 26, 2016, 10:32:34 am »

Ads for the national radio channel next to my place:

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12707 on: February 26, 2016, 10:40:46 am »

Ads for the national radio channel next to my place:

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So, if Trump eats a frosted Belgian waffle, they'll be the first to tell you? lol.....
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12708 on: February 26, 2016, 10:42:06 am »

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump really did love Brussels, or at least certain parts of it.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12709 on: February 26, 2016, 10:45:10 am »

Cos there's an obvious difference between someone growing up in a family who for generations has been obligated to the country and someone whose parents just illegally immigrated
must not be that obvious, i'm not seeing it
3rd generation Turks living in Germany descended from illegal migrants - still not integrated to this day

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12710 on: February 26, 2016, 10:53:29 am »

Define "integrated".
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12711 on: February 26, 2016, 11:09:12 am »

If we differentiate, they turn out to be regular Turks.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12712 on: February 26, 2016, 11:28:24 am »

Seriously, you're a brain surgeon, that means you've been through college. Did you sleep through every class you took?
I like to imagine his whole campaign has been a coldly calculated effort to appeal to the crazy parts of the party in order to gain power, but that he simply didn't count on Trump running this year and ever since has been struggling, and failing, to keep up.

In reality, though, it's more likely that intelligence and knowledge aren't simple linear scales, and competence at surgery doesn't at all translate into competence at running a government. Also, I doubt he ever took any relevant classes, having presumably dedicated his undergrad time to premed studies, although I don't actually care enough to verify that.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12713 on: February 26, 2016, 11:41:21 am »

His competence in surgery is actually pretty questionable. I know one of his former patients, her condition was a severe but well-understood one, and ultimately his intervention ended up causing her a lifetime of severe chronic pain and some loss of motor function.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12714 on: February 26, 2016, 11:43:32 am »

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12715 on: February 26, 2016, 12:07:33 pm »

His competence in surgery is actually pretty questionable. I know one of his former patients, her condition was a severe but well-understood one, and ultimately his intervention ended up causing her a lifetime of severe chronic pain and some loss of motor function.

Any surgery can go wrong, though. It's not like he was trying to replace her throat pipe with a plastic protesis or anything.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12716 on: February 26, 2016, 12:13:47 pm »

Maybe, but it doesn't support the idea of "genius neurosurgeon Ben Carson". An average doctor can make those mistakes, a field prodigy cannot.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12717 on: February 26, 2016, 12:16:37 pm »

I basically don't trust the capacity of anyone that self-describes as a genius.

Most of all Ben Carson. He may have the rep of a genius surgeon, but he's got the presence and charisma of a tre-panning patient.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12718 on: February 26, 2016, 12:39:33 pm »

An average doctor can make those mistakes, a field prodigy cannot.
That's... not actually how it works, sorry. A prodigy would get to the level of an average doctor faster, and/or be able to deal with less-understood conditions more effectively, and/or fail with well-understood conditions less often. In any of those cases, a sample size of 1 fuckup doesn't actually rule out anything.

Like, I'm not actually claiming that he's a particularly great doctor, I'm just saying your criteria are bad.
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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #12719 on: February 26, 2016, 12:51:14 pm »

Not to mention that he has a sample size of one. MSH, do you know any other patients of his or have access to data that shows how many didn't go well and how many went well? (rhetorical question)
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